Hello, Lars. Actually, I've done some pretty extensive testing on this issue under the NT "OS". Please see the post...
http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0109/463.html This is a pretty comprehensive test I did to ascertain the fact that the TSM backup client does _NOT_ change the access time. I did, however, encounter a situation where the combination of McAfee Virus Scan (with Outbound File Scan turned on) and the TSM client did modify the Access Time on a large portion of the files, but turning Outbound off alleviated the situation. You can find the posts at... http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0107/877.html http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0108/30.html May I ask how you're verifying the change of the Access time? I used a Perl script, myself. If you're using Windows Explorer File > Properties menu, that actually access the file itself and updates the Access time. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -----Original Message----- From: Danielsson Lars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Archive and keep last accessed date. Daniel. I agree the operating system changes the access date. In the same time, I'm convinced you can take control of a file read to not update the last accessed date or at least remember the date and put it back again after the read. I guess the TSM developers have the knowledge to fix an archive or backup without updating the last accessed date. >From my point of view as a storage manager, centralised storage management routines should never update the file attributes. They shall always reflect the customer's/user's accesses. I would like to see the TSM archive and TSM backup not updating the last accessed date on the read files. In fact no infrastructure routine should update the attributes. If I like to have a specific process for old files (not used for a long time). How can I find them to, for example, archive (with delete) if there have been some selective backups and/or archive (copy only) executed. The files will not age right from the business point of view. /Lars _______________________________________________ Lars Danielsson Volvo Information Technology AB Dept 2510, HD2S SE-40508 Gothenburg, Sweden Telephone: +46 31 667479 Telefax: +46 31 662336 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 4 februari 2002 15:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Archive and keep last accessed date. Sorry, didn't think about the mess getting on the list. Here's a translation: Hi Lars It's not the TSM client that changes the Last Access date, rather the operating system. Netware, or Windows for that mather, senses when the file is changed by an application, or user, and changes the date accordingly. Therefore, this is probably a setting in the operating system. But I don't now how to handle this in Netware, perhaps you know more about this than me. :) Best Regards Daniel Sparrman ----------------------------------- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergk�llav�gen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA V�xel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Salak Juraj <j.salak@ASAM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ER.AT> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Archive and keep last "ADSM: Dist accessed date. Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU> 2002-02-04 15:19 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Hej Daniel, ked sa dohovaras sukromne s Larsom tak je svedstina OK, ale potom mu napis na sukromnu adresu. Ked pises do verejneho fora, tak pouzivaj, prosim Ta, anglictinu Juraj ;)))) -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Archive and keep last accessed date. Hej Lars Det �r inte TSM klienten som �ndrar "Last Accessed" datumet, utan operativsystemet. Netware, eller Windows f�r den delen, k�nner av n�r filen accessas av en programvara, eller anv�ndare, och �ndrar d�refter datumet. D�rf�r borde denna f�r�ndring ligga i operativsystemets inst�llningar. Jag vet dock inte hur detta hanteras i Netware. Det kanske du kan b�ttre �n mig. Mvh // Daniel Sparrman ----------------------------------- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergk�llav�gen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA V�xel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Danielsson Lars <Lars.Danielsson@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VOLVO.COM> cc: Sent by: "ADSM: Subject: Archive and keep last accessed Dist Stor date. Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> 2002-02-04 12:34 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Hi. Do anyone know if it's possible to archive files by the TSM client and NOT changing the last accessed date? If - How? I need it for an archive routine that finds old files (not accessed since long time) in the centralised Netware file servers from where we distribute personal and project libraries to our customers PC's. The intention is, like we always have tried to do in the mainframes, have the date attributes to reflect the customer activities. I.e. have the infrastructure routines to behave transparent from the customers point of view. I'm doing the archiving by a Windows2000 TSM client access via the shares and not by the TSM Netware client to guarantee later access independent from possible file server farm changes in the future. Have someone tried something in this area, please tell me where you found the worst pitfalls. /Lars ________________________________________________ Lars Danielsson Volvo Information Technology AB Dept 2510, HD2S SE-40508 Gothenburg, Sweden Telephone: +46 31 667479 Telefax: +46 31 662336 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
