One of the Selling points of TSM is that you no longer have to
perform periodic full backups.

So, Quartly- Monthly etc. isn't built into the product.



-----Original Message-----
From:   Salak Juraj [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, March 08, 2002 4:05 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: Point in Time Backups

Dave,

I am curious about alternatives you keep in mind
when writing about this beeing "an increasing inhibitor".

It would be of some use for me as well
if I could combine quarterly backups with incremental forever paradigm,
but I am not aware of any product supporting this.

regards
Juraj salak



-----Original Message-----
From: Frost, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups


Cheri
This is our biggest headache with TSM which has NO suitable facility to
provide what you want. Backupsets and archiving are not viable ways of doing
it.

It has been raised as an issue before and there was an excellent description
of how Tivoli could resolve this submitted as a product suggestion at the
TSM Symposium in Oxford, England last October and supported by many other
users. We have one of two solutions that we use at the moment - either a
second node which justs backs up at the required interval (e.g. monthly) or
to use alternative software which does support the concept of holding
monthly/quarterly backups.

I am still hoping that Tivoli will address this soon because we are finding
that it is an increasing inhibitor.

Be cautious if you go the "monthly incremental" route.  It can dramatically
affect the size of your tsm database.  Also, you will want to consider using
the "dirmc" option for the normal daily nodes, otherwise every directory you
have will bind to the long retention class.

  regards,

-=Dave=-
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cheri Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 March 2002 21:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Point in Time Backups


I have numerous customers who are requesting that, in addition to their TSM
daily incremental backups, I also provide them with  "point in time"
backups of their data on significant days like month end, quarter end, etc.

I would guess there are numerous ways this can be accomplished with TSM.
I'm looking for input from those who are doing this successfully and would
be willing to share what method they're using to accomplish this and the
pros and cons of their chosen method.

Thanks in advance for your input!

Cheri Howard
Lead Storage Analyst
Aid Association for Lutherans/Lutheran Brotherhood
4321 N. Ballard Road, Appleton, WI  54919-0001
http://www.aal.org
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