Mark,

TSM can do bare metal restores, we have successfully done so along with
several other users on this list.  In a nutshell, the system object contains
needed registry settings.  If you don't restore it, then you don't get the
registry entries needed to make all the program files you have just restored
work.  You would then need to go back and re-install lots of items that
wouldn't be necessary if you restored the system objects as well (patches
and hot fixes come to mind as well)

You can however, bind the system objects to their own mgmt class in the
dsm.opt file with a
Include.SystemObject ALL mgmtclass   It escapes me now what version of the
client and server is required for this.  This cuts down on the DB hit for
all the system object entries.  Be careful as to not make this mgmt class
too restrictive if you need to roll back a server to a point in time that is
very old.

The B/A client 4.2.0 and above, does do System Object "versioning" which
makes point in time rollbacks a lot easier.

I hope this helps.

Matt Adams
Tivoli Storage Manager Team
Hermitage Site Tech
Deloitte & Touche USA LLP
615.882.6861




-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: System Objects Question


If TSM alone can't do bare metal restores than why do I need system objects?
I believe TSM backs these up by default. I am trying to do some cleanup and
have found that some client nodes have 30 or 40 thousand files backed up
taking up 4 or 5 GBs. I spoke to Tivoli level 2 support and they told me
that under 4.1.3 TSM has no method of overwriting system objects, it falls
under the policy settings of the management class for the node, although
that will be available in a future release.

So, short of creating a new node for each client and putting the system
objects under a new management class with shorter retention settings, I
though I should ask the question of why do I need these at all. For all past
complete server restores, we have always rebuilt, reloaded the OS, reloaded
the APPS, reloaded Tivoli and finally restored the data.

This is how I understand things to work, since I am pretty new at TSM, I
though I should turn to the experts.

Server 4.1.3 under W2K, clients are 4.1.2 NT4 and W2K. NT4 domain, no Active
Directory.

Your help is appreciated.

Mark Bertrand
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