Well, Marc, if you're stuck between the rock and the political hard place,
you could create 2 nodes.

node
node_hybrid

Create two schedulers.  Use two different optfiles with two different
inclexcl lists.  Or put the nodes in seperate domains so they can use
different default mgmtclasses.  Make the schedule for node_hybrid run a
normal incremental backup on the first of every month.  It's copygroup
should be something like....

Policy    Policy    Mgmt      Copy      Versions Versions   Retain  Retain
Domain    Set Name  Class     Group         Data     Data    Extra    Only
Name                Name      Name        Exists  Deleted Versions Version
--------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -------- -------- -------
HYBRID    ACTIVE    MONTHLY   STANDARD        12       12      365     365

You may want to set the frequency to 28, or some such, just in case someone
accidentally tries to kick off a mid-month backup under the hybrid node
name.  This way only new stuff or stuff that gets changed during the last
month will get backed up.  Granted, that approximately doubles that node's
occupancy, and increases backup processing and network utilization and
whatnot once a month, but it'll be better than keeping 12 copies of
everything and a lot less effort, processing overhead, and database overhead
than most archive scenarios.

Alex Paschal
Storage Administrator
Freightliner, LLC
(503) 745-6850 phone/vmail


-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Levitan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monthly Backups, ...again!


A question was brought up while discussing retention policies.

Currently we have the following retentions:

Policy    Policy    Mgmt      Copy      Versions Versions   Retain  Retain
Domain    Set Name  Class     Group         Data     Data    Extra    Only
Name                Name      Name        Exists  Deleted Versions Version
--------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -------- -------- -------
COLD      ACTIVE    COLD      STANDARD         2        1        5      30

NOVELL    ACTIVE    DIRMC     STANDARD        30        1      120     365
NOVELL    ACTIVE    STANDARD  STANDARD        30        1      120     365

RECON     ACTIVE    DIRMC     STANDARD        36        3       75     385
RECON     ACTIVE    MC_RECON  STANDARD        26        1       60     365

STANDARD  ACTIVE    DIRMC     STANDARD        26        1       60     365
STANDARD  ACTIVE    STANDARD  STANDARD        26        1       60     365


UNIX      ACTIVE    MC_UNIX   STANDARD        30        1       60      30


I believe that this provides for daily backups for over a month.

There was a request to have the following:
1)   Daily backups for a week.
2)   Weekly backups for a month.
3)   Monthly backups for a year.

I believe we are providing 1 & 2.  We are providing daily backups for a
month.

How can I provide monthly backups for a year?
I know that I could take monthly archives, but this would exceed our backup
windows and would increase our resources ( db, tapes, etc.)
Also, I know we could lengthen our retention policies.
Also we could create backup sets. (tons of tapes!)

How are other people handling this?

Thanks,


Marc Levitan
Storage Manager
PFPC Global Fund Services

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