Collocation has nothing to do with it. It's the nature of TSM and the VTS
that causes 'problems.' TSM likes to use all the space on a tape. TSM keeps
writing to a tape until it hits end-of-volume (EOV), then asks for another
tape with space on it or a scratch tape.

In a VTS, when you ask for a virtual volume to be mounted, if the data does
not already reside in the VTS cache/disk, then ALL the data on the volume is
recalled from the 'real' 3590 tape into the cache. If there's not room, then
the VTS will remove existing data from the cache based on a LRU algorithm.
If that data hasn't been copied to the 'real' 3590 volumes,that has to
happen first. So, no instead of mounting a tape and positioning to the end
of the data, you have to read the data from tape into the disk cache BEFORE
you can do anything with it. So,as the amount of data on the volume grows,
the amount of time it takes to perform the tape mount increases.

Now when you append data to the virtual volume, the VTS now has to stage
this data back out to the 3590 tapes...all of it. Not just the 'new' data
you appended. So now you're writing back out up to a full 3490 amount of
data to tape. Where the original data existed on tape is now unusable space.
Just like in TSM where expired data on tapes becomes unusable and you need
to reclaim. This happens in the VTS, too. You have regularly scheduled
reclamation tasks, plus thresholds. So, the more you append data to existing
volumes the more frequent you would need to run the reclamation. Just more
overhead in the VTS.

Plus by having to recall the virtual volume into cache before you can append
to it, or even read from it may cause other data withing the VTS to be
removed from cache. This could cause longer mount times for other
applications/jobs streams. You would want to have a larger amount of disk
cache within the VTS for a system used for TSM.

TSM reclamation would drive this system crazy, too. Without collocation,
think of how many input tape mounts it takes to reclaim your offsite storage
pool(s). Each one of those 'mounts' would cause the VTS to read the data
back into cache before it could be read by TSM. Plus the VTS doesn't know
that there is only maybe 10% usable data on that virtual volume. As far as
he's concerned, it's a full tape.

Maybe for a small TSM system you could use a VTS, but TSM is not the right
application for a VTS. IMHO that is.

Bill

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So, if you turn collocation off will TSM perform better with the VTS?
Will this be a big performance hit on the client restores?



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Thank you Bill
we now about the constallation tsm-vts and are on the right evaluation path
now (nativ 3590 drives for tsm?)

with kind regards

Joachim

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Von: Bill Boyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I've seen TSM use more than the MOUNTLIMIT when high priority tasks need to
be performed. But I question you're use of a VTS for TSM? There was just a
long discussion on this a couple weeks back. Applications that use the
entire media (DISP=MOD) like TSM and DFSMShsm are not really good
candidates
for a VTS. Check out the archives to review the thread.
(http://www.adsm.org) When TSM wants to add on to an existing storage pool
volume, the existing data must be transferred back into cache in the VTS
before it can be appended. Then the 'new' volume has to be staged back to
real 3590 tape. The original location on real 3590 is now unavailable and
needs to be reclaimed. By doing this a lot, you are forcing the VTS to do a
lot of reclamation tasks. Plus the mount wait time to stage the data is
holding you up. Unles you write to a volume and mark it as read-only so TSM
won't try to append to it again.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-PROD-ZH
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:06 AM
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Subject: Device_Mountlimit_VTS


Dear *SM Gurus

Our VTS has 64 logical drives, the mountlimit in this deviceclass is set to
38 in the TSM Server. Last Week i saw in the Mainvew Monitor an usage off
50
logical drives by TSM ! Is it possible to user more mountpoints, as they
are
defined by teh mountlimit?

Env: TSM Server 4.2.1.9 OS/390

Thanks in advance

Joachim


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