I think Q SYSTEMOBJECT didn't exist until the 4.2.0 client.
(And personally I don't trust the systemobject backup of the 4.1 client.
There were some bugs. I STRONGLY recommend 4.2.0, or 4.2.1.20).

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Hi Jim,
I asked our Win2K guy to do the Q SYSTEMOBJECT at the b/a client command
line, and it responded this way:

tsm> q systemobject
   ANS1138E The 'QUERY' command must be followed by a subcommand

We are running the 4.1.1 client on that machine.
By default, it only appears to backup these system objects:
Event Log
Registry
RSM
He was able to manually backup these system objects, though:
Active Directory
COM+DB
System Files
System Volume
I could have him do the SHOW command, but I was wondering what we were
doing wrong with the Q systemobject...
Thanks,
Julie


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Julie,

To add to Tim's comments.   The TSM B/A client processes all system
objects which are active on the machine; there are now a total of eleven
of these system objects (added the WMI db support in TSM 5.1.0) of which
only a subset will be valid on a given machine.  This subset depends both
on the flavor of Windows 2000 installed (e.g., Pro vs. Server vs. Adv.
Server ...) and which Windows components are installed (e.g., Active
Directory is available with the W2k server edition but only active if it
is installed).  You can expand the System Object container in the Windows
B/A GUI to see which system objects are active.  Also, you can issue the
command SHOW SYSTEMOBJECT (not documented) and see which objects are
active:

stat    rc      system object
----    ---     -------------
OK      0000    COM+ Database
n/a     4312    Certificate Server Database
OK      0000    Event Log
   ...
OK      0000    WMI Database

>From this you can see that the COM+, Event Log and WMI Database are active
but Cert. Server is not .. (I only showed partial output).

As Tim mentions, the QUERY SYSTEMOBJECT shows you what is actually
backed-up to the TSM server.

Hope this helps,
Jim Smith
TSM Development

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>From the Backup/Archive Command line clinet (dsmc), enter q systemobject.
It should show you the last backup date of all system objects.

tsm> q systemobject


Size      Backup Date        Mgmt Class A/I File
----      -----------        ---------- --- ----
7,750  05/17/2002 00:04:27    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\compdb
717,644  05/17/2002 00:04:28    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\EVENTLOG
140,726,199  05/17/2002 00:04:34    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\SYSFILES
21,533,875  05/17/2002 00:11:37    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\SYSVOL
94,404,688  05/17/2002 00:14:20    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\NTDS
4,318,790  05/17/2002 00:14:32    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\REGISTRY
20,883  05/17/2002 00:14:34    DEFAULT     A  SYSTEM
OBJECT\SERVER1\RSM

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Thanks, Tim,
What's a Q systemobject?   That command doesn't seem to produce anything,
do I have it wrong?
Thanks,
Julie



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Incremental backup process all of the system ojbects on our Windows 2000
Domain Controllers.


I've done full restores with many client versions including 4.2.1.20 and
4.12.12.

The default is to include system objects with DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL.  What is
your domain statement?

Have you done a q systemobject from the b/a command line?

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-----Original Message-----
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Hi all,
I'm not familiar with Active Directory on Win2000 but I've been told by
one
of our Win2000 guys :

There is a System Object selection list that includes the following
items to backup using TSM:
Active Directory,  COM+ DB, Event Log, Registry, RSM, System
Files, System Volume

But it appears like only the following System Objects are currently
being selected for backup:
Event Log
Registry
RSM

I'm wondering if by default, incremental backup does not back up all of
the
System Objects?   Do I need to specify something in the DSM.OPT file or in
a client optionset to get it to do all the system objects in Active
Directory?
Thanks,
Julie Phinney

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