I believe that the node will not rebind so long as you do not change the
management class name.  But, if you change the management class name as you
are proposing it will rebind.

However, I will defer to Del on this.

Our problem is a little different.  We have a bunch of MS-Exchange backups
and we need to keep one week forever, the rest for a year.  The backups were
created months ago.  We cannot use a special management class for that one
backup because there is no way to specify that one in the management class.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Levinson, Donald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Archive or monthly capability for TDP MS-SQL and MS-Exchange


Instead of using two nodes could I just specify a different management class
with a backup copy group that has NOLIMIT on the expired versions retained,
and use that management class for only my monthly backups?

-----Original Message-----
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Archive or monthly capability for TDP MS-SQL and MS-Exchange


I have submitted a Share Requirement for us to be able to rebind backups
that have already occurred to help with the oops I need to keep that one
longer problem.  However, that does not solve this problem.  There are a
number of methods to do this for file systems, but only one of them that I
can think of that will work for this.

Mind you I have never tested this, but we are probably going to in the next
couple of weeks.

You set up 2 Exchange Backup Node Names.  One you run on the other cycle,
one you run your normal cycle.  Both need to be fulls and the logistics of
using incrementals or differentials can create some interesting issues.  

So presuming both nodes are doing fulls.  You have two dsm.opt files if
necessary, probably not, just use 2 different policy domains and default
management classes.

The tdpexcc backup command supports the tsmnode specification.  You set the
copy group for one policy domain to 365 days and run the backup once a month
on the day you want to with that node specified.

This is kind of what you indicated.  So you are on the right track.

Now, for the licensing issue.  TDP for Exchange is not licensed by node it
is licensed by CPUs or physical machines.  You could define 20 nodes for
that box if necessary.  What you have to do is register more licenses to
TSM.  I would name your nodes in a way so that when queried it is obvious
that you only have one for the group.  

This has been the licensing debacle for Tivoli.  They realized that a
licensing scheme based on nodes does not work.  What they have to do is
provide certificates that are registered to the hardware, but everyone is
different so it creates a monster.  Thus, they gave up based on what I have
seen.

Talk to your Tivoli Representative or Business Partner.  I am pretty sure I
am right on this. 

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon, INC
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: P�tur Ey��rsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Archive or monthly capability for TDP MS-SQL and MS-Exchange


Dear Mr Donald

It is not possible to archive data from SQL and Exchange.

I hasn�t hear anything about that IBM will make this feature possible.

Old SQL data and old Excahnge data is useless. the only reason for you to
use this kind of data is perhaps that 2 years from now you would like to
know how your databases looked like in 2002.

I think Oracle has a interface that creates a snapshot of your database,
oracle then dumps the data to files.

Im not enugh database guru to know this in depth but perhaps microsoft has a
utility like this one.

I think that is the way the vendors want you to do it.

hope this helps :)

Kvedja/Regards
Petur Eythorsson
Taeknimadur/Technician
IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
Microsoft Certified System Engineer

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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Levinson, Donald A.
Sent: 17. j�l� 2002 18:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Archive or monthly capability for TDP MS-SQL and MS-Exchange


Is it possible to do an Archive from TDP for MS-SQL and TDP for MS-Exchange?
if not does anyone know if that feature is in future plans? I need to be
able to keep monthly and yearly backups or archives of my database but still
expire the rest of the backups. One person suggested I create two clients
and backup the monthly and yearly backups to the second client name (using a
second dsm.opt I presume) but I do not wish to use two TDP licenses just to
backup the same box. Has anyone else come up with a resolution to this using
the current TDP clients?


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