I go along with this. What is really needed is a process that works for all vendors that matches the IBM MKSYSB 'clone' process. For those of you not familiar, it works like this:
1) Boot from vender install CD 2) Start system recovery 3) Select "Install from a system backup" as the desired recovery. AIX is pulled in from the tape, additional device drivers as neede get pulled in from the CD, and the end result is a bootable system disk that matches the backup with (possibly) some additional device drivers. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc > -----Original Message----- > From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: BareMetalRestore > > > The issue is actually more complex for IBM/Tivoli. They > typically do not > implement solutions that have potential integrity issues and they are > targeted toward enterprise recoveries in case of a disaster. > > Unfortunately, none of the Disaster Recovery providers > recommend BMR because > of HAL issues in the windows world and it being much easier > to guarantee a > successful recovery for UNIX systems by restoring to an > alternate drive and > booting. What the DR providers do like is the mksysb of AIX. > That is a > great tool. > > Tivoli does recognize the fact that customers must have a bare metal > recovery to identical hardware for windows. I do not know > when, but they > will eventually have a solution for this. I believe this is > the convenience > case. > > If you are a business partner, you should be making the > business lost case > to Tivoli because of the missing BMR capability. I encourage > all business > partners to make that plea with supporting documentation to Tivoli. > > Paul D. Seay, Jr. > Technical Specialist > Naptheon Inc. > 757-688-8180 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: BareMetalRestore > > > There is a problem: all other software, like Brightstor and Netbackup > support this function. Since the windows users are getting > more, we cannot > ignore the requests from them. I lose about 4 case which > Brightstor and > Netbackup take these case because of the lack of this > function. TSM is a > very good solution, but is still not a complet solution. > People do not think > about the disaster and disaster recovery, they just think of > convinient, > especially they spend lots of money to build a solution. > > Mephi Liu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: BareMetalRestore > > > IBM is the only company that provides this capability for its > operating > systems. Standalone restore on the mainframe, mksysb on AIX. > These are > included free with the OS. This is a OS vendor issue. They > simply do not > recognize the benefits of the capability and are not focused > on SAR because > they do not see it as a problem. > > The place that Tivoli needs to step in is make things like > mksysb integrated > as a special backup capability that and manage the associated > media and > provide a boot strap wrapper to invoke the native system's > capability if the > are ever created. > > Paul D. Seay, Jr. > Technical Specialist > Naptheon Inc. > 757-688-8180 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: BareMetalRestore > > > There has been a lot of discussion on bare metal restore with > TSM and other > products. It seems we're all held hostage to purchase > expensive products > that have this capability. Unfortunately in times like this > we've all had > our budgets cut, at least I have, and would like our software vendors, > IBM/TIVOLI in this case, to make their products more robust. > After all we do > send them maintenance money for software updates and expect > the product to > get better. > > I'm just wondering how serious IBM is about getting TSM to > "WORK" with the > various OS software vendors, i.e. Microsoft, HP, Compaq, Sun > and the like, > to find out what it takes to get it's product to do bare > metal restores. If > TKG could make it work why can't IBM? Or don't these guys talk to each > other? > > My little rant for the day!!!!! > Geoff Gill > TSM Administrator > NT Systems Support Engineer > SAIC > E-Mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: (858) 826-4062 > Pager: (877) 905-7154 >
