The only disadvantages we have come across so far are...

If the journaling service is stopped for any reason, the next time a backup is run, it 
will be a full incremental, meaning it will once again inspect all of the files on the 
client, because it can't determine which ones may have changed while the service was 
stopped.

You can however change a setting in the TSMJBDB.ini file that tells TSM to keep the 
journal database and reuse it if the journaling service is stopped and restarted, the 
option is 'PreserveDBOnExit=1', the disadvantage to this is that any file changed 
while the service is stopped will not get backed up then.

Otherwise, Journaling has been very useful for us.

Ryan Miller
 
Principal Financial Group
 
Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager v4.1


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Evans [mailto:Jon.Evans@;HALLIBURTON.COM]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:54 AM
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Can anyone please explain the disadvantages of using journal-based backup?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gianluca Mariani1 [mailto:gianluca_mariani@;IT.IBM.COM]
Sent: 25 October 2002 15:47
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Subject: Re: Very long backup/So many files

what platform are you running(OS on client and server)?
code levels(client & server)?
is journaled backup in use?
how is the client connected to the server (what network)?

Cordiali saluti
Gianluca Mariani
Tivoli TSM Global Response Team, Roma
Via Sciangai 53, Roma
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Does anyone think a computer that has this many files on it, that only
backed up 12,222 files, should take over 10 hours to complete? I'm having a
problem with this node dropping out a couple of times a night for being
idle
for more than 60 minutes too.

We've double checked the NIC and switch port for the proper settings. When
I
looked at it last night the CPU wasn't doing anything.

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4952I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects inspected: 4,151,721

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4954I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects backed up:   12,222

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4958I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects updated:          0

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4960I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects rebound:          0

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4957I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects deleted:          0

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4970I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects expired:        386

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4959I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of objects failed:           0

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4961I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Total

                       number of bytes transferred:     1.15 GB

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4963I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)  Data

                       transfer time:                   73.02 sec

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4966I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)
Network
                       data transfer rate:        16,571.01 KB/sec

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4967I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)
Aggregate
                       data transfer rate:         32.91 KB/sec

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4968I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)
Objects
                       compressed by:                   19%%

10/25/02 06:13:04     ANE4964I (Session: 3357, Node: CP-ITS-DCMECPD)
Elapsed
                       processing time:            10:12:51


Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
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