William, Check RMF if you have it, this will give you more info on whether TSM is being squeezed for cpu or is suffering slow i/o. my favourite from your symtoms are cpu deprivation. I was going to suggest that you recycled the TSM address space, to clear any memory leaks, but I can see from your tottal buffer requests that it has not been that long, since your last recycle. Was the performance ok before that recycle ? Your database utilisation rate should fpr preference be kept below 90% and your cacke hit % is lower than it should be (98% plus), but if your performance problem is recent and these values have not changed much recently they are not likely to have been directly responsible for the performance drop. In answer to your specific questions, I would say that your bufferpool is way too big My database is half the size of yours, but my Buffer Pool Pages are only 12,288 There is a relationship between the TSM region size/bufferpoolsize and available real memory where you can in fact significantly worsen performance by seemingly giving TSM more resources. I would check that my TSM region size was 512 mb and I would try an initial bufferpool size similar to mine. If you had serious problems with the database, I would expect you to see error messages, and I would then expect you to take advice from support and this would be the only scenario for which I would even consider an audit database. Then after consideration, I still would not do it if there was another solution, John
William White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/12/2003 12:50:39 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE) Subject: TSM Performance OS/390 Dear helpful TSMers, We are having trouble with performance. Symptoms are extremely slow expiration, database backup, migration, backup, restore, admin commands. As an example, after an incremental database backup of about 360000 pages, there was a message on the console saying all of the pages were backed up and yet it took about an hour for the process to end. Normal performance of database backup in our environment is about 15000 pages every 30 seconds (when the progress message is issued) Yesterday, I was seeing a few hundred pages increase between messages. TSM environment: z800 (2066 0A2) OS/390 V2.10 (32 bit mode) STK 9840 tape (20 GB cartridges) HDS 7700 E DASD TSM server 4.1.6 150 clients, mostly wintel 250 GB per night backup I know that the server software is out of date and we are working on getting V5. I think the basic problem is bad performance of the TSM database: tsm: ADSM>q db f=d Available Space (MB): 57,120 Assigned Capacity (MB): 52,516 Maximum Extension (MB): 4,604 Maximum Reduction (MB): 4,396 Page Size (bytes): 4,096 Total Usable Pages: 13,444,096 Used Pages: 12,319,606 Pct Util: 91.6 Max. Pct Util: 91.6 Physical Volumes: 25 Buffer Pool Pages: 200,000 Total Buffer Requests: 98,206,939 Cache Hit Pct.: 97.27 Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00 Backup in Progress?: No Type of Backup In Progress: Incrementals Since Last Full: 2 Changed Since Last Backup (MB): 923.31 Percentage Changed: 1.92 Last Complete Backup Date/Time: 06/11/2003 13:38:46 My Questions: 1) Does the size of the buffer pool seem appropriate? What values are other sites using? 2) Does anyone have any experience of pervasive damage to the TSM database? 3) Does anyone think an AUDIT DB would help? I am reluctant to try that because I think it would take a very long time and the server would be out of service for all that time. I did an AUDIT DB years ago and it ran over 9 hours on a 6GB database. Extrapolating, an AUDIT DB might finish in four days ( a reasonable guess ? ) Thanks, www. --------------------------------------------------------- William White Service Delivery Section International Computing Centre (ICC) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ********************************************************************** The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It may not represent the views of Scottish and Southern Energy plc. It is intended solely for the addressees. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any unauthorised recipient should advise the sender immediately of the error in transmission. Scottish Hydro-Electric, Southern Electric, SWALEC and S+S are trading names of the Scottish and Southern Energy Group. **********************************************************************