Salak, all,

my view of what you describe inline:

Salak Juraj wrote:
Hmm,

I played around between TSM server and an test file server, both NT2000, TSM server beeing in a workgroup and test file server beeing in a domain.

From what i see here, this has the following effect (btw: if we get OT here, please let me know - we might carry this offlist?):


Once a machine is in a domain, it normally does authentication only against the domain unless you specify otherwise. Example:

I work on my notebook as a local notebook user, and want to mount a share of a machine in a domain, but with a user context of a local user on _that_ machine.

Once i type the \\server_in_domain\share into the file explorer, my notebook sends along with the request the user info of my local context, which is unknown to the server - so i have to specify and log on with another account.

If i then enter as user "Server_local_username" and "Password", the authentication will fail as long as this username and pw-combination is not also available in the domain, since the server assumes domain authentication.

I can log on with "server_in_domain\Server_local_username" and "Password", though.

The other solution, as mentioned, would be to have a domain user with the same name and pw as my local user, which would also let me log on, without even having to type/provide this info myself. This is what I now did for my TSM-Server, which is not in the domain of the server I want to backup to.

I defined very same local users on both,
plan NET USE Z: ... from TSM server to test file server works, no password input necessary (same
passwords).

This should not be possible. :)


But define devclass remoteshare devtype=file ...
fails both with Z:\ and \\server\ressource parameter.

Yesterday, I found it very useful to check by loggin onto the machine with the user account i intended to have TSM-Server running under, and do "net view \\other_server\share" - if i get "access denied", it won,t work.



Second,
I tried to mount Z: using NET USE pointig to the very same TSM server
("remote" drive on local server)
Even in this case define devclass remoteshare devtype=file dir="z:" failed,

...as should as the others have let me know? :)


but define devclass remoteshare devtype=file dir="\\TsmServer\TMP" worked.

Conclusio #1:
define devclass remoteshare devtype=file dir="z:" works apparently for local drives only.

dunno. :)


Conclusio #2:
define devclass remoteshare devtype=file dir="\\server\ressource" should work, but we seem to have problem with user/password passing to the
"server".

to me, it seems as not provided by tsm...



I found nothing in tsm admin reference. Who can help?

I hope the info given above might have shed some light, but I am still curious to any additional info... :)


regards, tobi... :)


regards Juraj




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Imre, all,


Imre Kloknicer wrote:


Hi Tobias,

Windows services by default run as a Local System account and this
account usually does not have access to network resources.


ok...

I usually

create a user for running TSM services and give appropriate
permissions to this user.


ok, familiar with the concept. And after playing around with it for a bit I started to realize that for the setup I had in mind here, I face the problem of having to pass along user- and passwordinformation, which does not seem to be possible within the "define devclass..." syntax - is that correct?

As effect of that, I would have to either take my backup-server-machine into the same domain as the machine I intend to create my backups on, or allow guest and anonymous login on that machine - is that correct also?

thanks again for the input and any further comments,

kind regards, tobi...


Regards, Imre



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Imre, Allan,


thanks for the quick reply, but:

Allan Hansen wrote:



Hi Tobias,

Don't use the drive letter. It will work with the server name of
the remote machine.

e.g.:

define devclass remoteshare devtype=file

dir="\\servername\tsmbackups"


tsm: CMS2_SERVER1>define devclass remoteshare devtype=file dir="\\cms1\tsmbackups" ANR8366E DEFINE DEVCLASS: Invalid value for
DIRECTORY parameter. ANS8001I Rückkehrcode 3.


Whereas i can see \\cms1\tsmbackups in the file explorer on the
machine CMS2, as well as do

C:\>net view \\cms1 Freigegebene Ressourcen auf \\cms1

Name Typ Lokal Beschreibung

-------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- tsmbackups Platte videos Platte Der
Befehl wurde erfolgreich ausgeführt.


in a CLI on CMS2...

I do have to logon to cms1, though, before i can see it in the file
explorer - could that be a security thing, that the tsm-server on
cms2 is running under anoter user context?

any ideas? thanks for the input,

kind regards, tobi...



Allan Hansen Munk IT A/S Egelundsvej 18 5260 Odense S Denmark





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hi all,

I would like to create a devclass of devtype=file on a windows
2000 server (w2k) running tsm5.1.0.0 using as dir-path a mounted
share of another machine. So what I do is I mount the share of
the

other machine,



using the gui-analogon to "net use" (sorry, German OS here,

don,t know



the English terms by heart), on, say, drive f:, and then do

define devclass remoteshare devtype=file dir="f:\tsmbackups" on
the admin command line. result is

ANR8366E DEFINE DEVCLASS: Invalid value for DIRECTORY parameter.

I am told that on a Unix-machine, it is possible to define

a devclass of



type file on mounted volumes...

Am I missing something here? What could be the solution to

my problem?



Thanks in advance for any input,

kind regards, tobias hofmann :)

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