That's the "real" vs "virtual" processors Wanda was talking about, you have only 2 processors for licensing. The extras are virtual and only matter to applications that can use them like Micro$oft SQL2000.
Jim Murray Senior Systems Engineer Liberty Bank 860.638.2919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 14:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: licensing (again... :( ) Now we have some Intel Xenon processors, for each single physical processor, it shows 2 processors when using the M$ perfmonitor. How many processors do I report? (we have several machines with 2 processors, but it looks like 4 processors to perfmon) I havn't been able to get a satisfactory answer to this too! TIA ... Jack 'bewildered by IBM licensing' C. -----Original Message----- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: licensing (again... :( ) No. That is badly explained everywhere. Took us 3 tries to get quotes for our maint renewal (1st quote was more than double what it should have been) because EVERYONE is confused. First, a TSM client is either a "server client" or a "workstation client" depending on how it is used in YOUR organization. If the machine provides SERVICES to other machines, it is a server. If it is used standalone, it is a workstation/desktop. If it is a 12-processor high-end machine used as a standalone research box, it's still a workstation. If it is a 1-processor 130mhz machine used as a print server or firewall, its still a "server". License costs, at least for your maintenance contracts, are DIFFERENT depending on whether it is a server or a workstation/desktop. This is documented in the IBM Price lists. For "server clients", licensing is based on the number of processors (real, not virtual) in the box. For "workstation clients", the number of processors is irrelevant. There are many sites that back up only "server clients". As a result apparently some Tivoli folks/Business partners FORGET TO ASK about workstation machines, and just ask "how many processors are you backing up", which will result in higher charges than should be. They need to calculate your maint charges on TWO numbers 1) the number of server processors you are backing up, and 2) the number of workstations (not workstation processors). Hope that helps. Sigh. -----Original Message----- From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: licensing (again... :( ) From: Remco Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >since IBM now diffentiates it's TSM licensing fee based on the worksation of server role a system has in the company, I assume that IBM has some definition of what that it thinks a server or a workstation is.< Is this true? The last I heard, licensing is by processor count, regardless of the software installed. (100 processors' worth of license could allow for 100 installations of TSM server on 100 1-processor boxes, for instance.) -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ________________________________________________
