Hi,
I agree,
not only do you save space in the TSM db, you avoid the problems associated with
them as well.

The other ting is that a cold standby server can be turned into the real thing
with little trouble. Works just as well for a w2k3 box.
We figured that an app server has to be running in the shortest time possible so
we prefer the nt backup option because any box (different model) can be turned
into that app server. Restoring the databases, etc will take long enough.

Mit freundlichen Gr��en / Best Regards

Markus Veit



                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
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        At my company, we backup system objects a little differently.  Instead
of letting TSM handle it, we have a precommand that backups the system state to
a flat file using NT Backup.  Thus when doing a restore, I just reinstall the
OS, tell it to replace files on boot that it can't do during normal restore, and
lastely run the NT Backup and restore the system state from the flat file.  We
don't reinstall the service pack nor the hot fixes.  When I run "winver" after
reboot, it shows the correct service pack level and all of the hot fixes appear
in the "Add/Remove Programs" again.  Also, checking system files, they appear to
be the correct version level.  Seems a lot easier doing it this way then having
to restore all of that stuff by hand, just my $00.02...

Michael French
Savvis Communications
IDS01 Santa Clara, CA
(408)450-7812 -- desk
(408)239-9913 -- mobile



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Prather, Wanda
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Eric,

With Win2K, TSM supports "replace on boot" files.
So if you check the "replace even if readonly" in the client options, TSM will
restore those locked files.

WinNT will not do this.
That's why when you are restoring WinNT you put Windows in a different
directory, but with Win2K you don't.

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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:34 AM
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Hi Christian!
I doubt whether your procedure will work. TSM will not allow you to replace
files which are locked by the OS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you will have to
install Win2k initially in a different directory. This way you can restore the
complete original windows folder afterwards. I don't really know why you should
apply the service pack, but my guess is that it has to do with the kernel file
which resides in the root. If it's version differs from the other OS files in
the windows directory, you will probably see strange behavior. Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:24
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Hi Everyone!
If I want to do a manual recovery of my Windows 2000 server do I need to do this
steps.
* Install Windows 2000
* Join the domain
* Install the same Serivce Pack as before.
* Install the same TSM version or later.
* Restore the System State
* Restore all files

So my question is.
Why do I need to install the same Service Pack. Can�t TSM write over all files
and replece the files when the system is reboot?

Best Regard / Med v�nlig h�lsning
Christian Svensson
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified

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