Thank you for understanding me Zlatko. The reason I'm asking for this is what we hear from our prospect customers on initial sales meeting. When question comes to security and encryption, if we can we try to avoid exact answer. Usually we say data is encrypted with industry standard encryption. If we have somebody that knows little bit more about this and he/she asks what kind of encryption, and we say 56 bit they all look to each other. You have to remember that we are backing up data off-site over the Internet and encryption becomes big issue for us. And we all know that 56bit is very old technology(5-8 years; not sure). You can not do internet banking without 128bit for at least 3-4 years. 128bit is standard on win2000, even nt4 had 128bit encryption with one of the service packs.
Back to the GIVE US A CHANCE How we open "enhancement request" from IBM !!!!!!!!!! Joe Crnjanski Infinity Network Solutions Inc. Phone: 416-235-0931 x26 Fax: 416-235-0265 Web: www.infinitynetwork.com -----Original Message----- From: Zlatko Krastev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: encryption: 56 to 128 --> ... without the TSM database, a TSM tape is worhtlees... This is not completely correct. Some data can be read from the tapes but you will not know is it the latest version and from which time period it is. There was such a tool in the past. Look the list archives for "adsmtape". --> ... any data that transits on the network is encrypted. Usually it's not. Fully agree ... but the initial question was what to if we want to be secure. If I am "Mr. IT Manager" and see two security issues, insecure network traffic and insecure backups, and want to resolve them?!? We can protect the network, and when the time comes to backups ....do what? If the network is still insecure (but can be), it is not an excuse to do not have protection on backups! Some companies/organizations prefer to *lose* some data instead of revealing that same data to a competitor/enemy!!! Back to the topic - "GIVE US A CHANCE" The "appropriate" method is to open a enhancement request with IBM. Argument it with the cumulative revenue IBM lost because of lacking the feature - sum licenses, services and maintenance for 3 or 5 years, for all projects you've lost and SHOW THEM THE MONEY!!! Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Guillaume Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27.11.2003 18:00 Please respond to guillaume.gilbert To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: encryption: 56 to 128 I always ask if any data that transits on the network is encrypted. Usually it's not. So why would the backups be?. Unlike Netbackup, TSM does not use tar to write on tapes. It uses its own proprietary method. And without the TSM database, a TSM tape is worhtlees... Guillaume Gilbert Backup Administrator CGI - ITM (514) 415-3000 x5091 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Remco Post > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: encryption: 56 to 128 > > > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:41:34 -0500 > Joe Crnjanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Does anybody know if IBM is planning to upgrade their > famous encryption > > from 56 to 128 bit at least. Not to mention that today on > market 512 bit > > is not very difficult to find in other softwares. > > > > We lost couple of customers because they requested at least 128 bit > > encryption. > > > > I know that IBM's argument is effect on speed of backup, > but GIVE US A > > CHANCE to choose and we can decide when to use 56 128 or 1024 bit. > > > > IBM also arguments, rightfully, that if you need stronger > encryption, you'll > probably need to encrypt the files while they are stored on > your disk as > well. After some thought, I think I'll have to agree. > Remember even 56bit > des can currently not that easily be cracked by anyone who is > not in the > business of cracking strong encryption for a living. > > > > Joe Crnjanski > > Infinity Network Solutions Inc. > > Phone: 416-235-0931 x26 > > Fax: 416-235-0265 > > Web: www.infinitynetwork.com > > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten, > > Remco Post > > SARA - Reken- en Netwerkdiensten > http://www.sara.nl > High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 > 592 8008 Fax. +31 20 668 3167 > > "I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did > the computer > industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the > computer industry > didn't even foresee that the century was going to end." -- > Douglas Adams >
