Destroying a single disk or two is easy: apply a 10 pound hammer, 
preferably after opening the case. (Beware of fragments flying around.)

Nice idea how to destroy tapes, though.

Does someone know how much good a SCSI erase command does? I have a bunch 
of (still good) AIT-2 tapes left over from our old TSM installation. I ran 
"mt erase" on all of them before switching off. Would that be sufficient 
to destroy the data, from a practical point of view?

 Rainer Schöpf

-----Original Message-----

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Kauffman, Tom wrote:

 > Well, I have the advantage of working for a relatively small privately
 > held company. And all of my disk is raid-5 ESS, with multiple SAP and
 > Oracle instances spread across any given ESS volume set. So I don't need
 > to do anything on the disk; the data is sufficiently scrambled to make
 > meaningfull recovery not worth the effort (our direct competitors can
 > get most of the info by much easier techniques).
 > 
 > We dispose of used tape with a bandsaw; two right-angle cuts through the
 > cartridge, 'fluff' the resulting tape scraps, and dump (we never do just
 > one; we wait until we have three or four to do). 
 > 
 > We haven't lost a system volume on an RS-6000 or Intel server yet; I'm
 > not sure what I'd do in that case, although we have very little on
 > either over and above the base OS files.
 > 
 > Tom Kauffman
 > NIBCO, Inc
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 > Lamb, Charles P.
 > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:17 PM
 > To: [email protected]
 > Subject: Re: Disposition of Failed Storage Devices
 > 
 > Mr. Kauffman...
 > 
 > How does your company handle the Disposition of Failed Storage Devices??
 > After further discussions with my boss, we have many camps with
 > differing points of view. 
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 > Kauffman, Tom
 > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:57 AM
 > To: [email protected]
 > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Disposition of Failed Storage Devices
 > 
 > Given the security group's position, I think your options are
 > sledghammer or iron smelter. And you'll really need to put everything
 > you've got into the sledgehammer, if you go that route. A thermal lance
 > or oxygen cutting torch might also fill the requirements.
 > 
 > I doubt you'll get anything in writing from either IBM or EMC that will
 > be satisfactory. You'll also need to get quotes from both on how much
 > the maintenance fees will increase if the failed media device is
 > rendered non-salvageable before return.
 > 
 > Tom Kauffman
 > NIBCO, Inc
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 > Lamb, Charles P.
 > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM
 > To: [email protected]
 > Subject: Disposition of Failed Storage Devices
 > 
 > Hi............
 > 
 > Our IT management is looking at implementing a process for disposition
 > of failed storage devices. We have a hardware contract with both IBM and
 > EMC.  Our IT management is not sure that our data would be secured and
 > deleted correctly.  
 > 
 > Here is an excerpt from our security group.
 > 
 > From my perspective, what we have from IBM/EMC so far isn't sufficient.
 > My opinion is that in order for us to consider a vendor's approach
 > suitable- there needs to be more focus on data breach law compliance
 > support.  For example, if we can confirm that their approach (or related
 > optional enhancements) is audited, secured, traceable,
 > employee/subcontractor vetting/background checking, and includes
 > appropriate notification of potential data breach, etc and that their
 > program is also periodically third party audited (& ideally court case
 > tested).. we're in a much better position. If/when they notify us of
 > loss, we also would need full cooperation in related investigation
 > efforts and confirming ultimate disposition.
 > 
 > Your company's process would be appreciated. Thoughts??  Tnx's a bunch
 > for your input. 
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