Fred, I cannot give you a definitive to answer your question since I do not know your shop, its policies, service level agreement, etc., For example, it could be your shop policy that the INCLUDE *:\...\* is deliberate to prevent users from overriding via dsm.opt settings.
Having said that: removing that INCLUDE would enable use of the client-side option (I leave it to you to review the Q INCLEXCL output to confirm there no other interfering settings). Whether you really want to do that, I cannot say. Another alternative is to make a new client option set for this user that does not have the INCLUDE *:\...\*. Or set the node to not use any client option set. Or configure a special node name for backing up just those files. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> wrote on 11/29/2007 05:38:30 PM: > So how does he get what he wants. The option set is to set a > management class for a number of clients. The new management class > applies to 1 of the 10. Will setting the OVERRIDE=yes have the > desired effect? > > ________________________________ > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck > Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 4:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class > > > > OK, the Q INCLEXCL output is what we're interested in. > > You read the Q INCLEXCL from the top down (opposite of the dsm.opt file). > Notice that all the dir excludes (EXCLUDE.DIR) are at the top, since those > are always filtered first, regardless of how they are positioned. > > So starting from the top down, I see this above the INCLUDE for the new > management class: > > Include All *\...\* Server > > So that's why the new INCLUDE is ineffective. There are a lot of other > excluded files below that are probably getting backed up. > > Regards, > > Andy > > Andy Raibeck > IBM Software Group > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development > Level 3 Team Lead > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: > http://www.ibm. > com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > The command line is your friend. > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> wrote on 11/29/2007 > 03:00:42 PM: > > > There are no 'INCLUDE' lines in the option set other than the initial > > one. > > > > This is the dsm.opt: > > > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.*" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\EA DATA. SF" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IBMBIO.COM" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IBMDOS.COM" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IO.SYS" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\config\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dhcp\...\*" > > INCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dns\...\*" > > INCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.*" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\EA DATA. SF" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IBMBIO.COM" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IBMDOS.COM" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IO.SYS" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\config\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dhcp\...\*" > > INCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dns\...\*" > > INCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\*" > > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\System Volume Information" > > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\...\Temporary Internet Files" > > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Recycled" > > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Recycler" > > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget Office\*" > > LONGADMIN > > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget > > Office\*.*" LONGADMIN > > > > And the dsmc q inclexcl: > > > > *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE *** > > Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File > > ---- --------- ------------------------------ ----------------- > > Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins Server > > Excl Directory *\temp Server > > Excl Directory *\Recycle* Server > > Excl Directory *\I386 Server > > Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server > > Excl Directory C:\adsm.sys Operating System > > Excl Directory *\Recycler dsm.opt > > Excl Directory *\Recycled dsm.opt > > Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt > > Excl Directory *\System Volume Information dsm.opt > > Exclude All *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server > > Exclude All *\winnt\netlogon.chg Server > > Exclude All *\winnt\debug\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\winnt\debug\* Server > > Exclude All *\winnt\csc\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\winnt\csc\* Server > > Exclude All *\winnt\Registration\*.clb Server > > Exclude All *\hibernate.dat Server > > Exclude All *\hiberfil.sys Server > > Exclude All *\ffastun*.ff? Server > > Exclude All *\MSDOS.SYS Server > > Exclude All *\IO.SYS Server > > Exclude All *\IBMDOS.COM Server > > Exclude All *\IBMBIO.COM Server > > Exclude All *\...\pagefile.sys Server > > Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\* Server > > Exclude All *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\...\Cache\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\...\Cache\* Server > > Exclude All *\*.crmlog Server > > Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\...\* Server > > Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\microsoft uam volume\* Server > > Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\macintosh volume\...\* Server > > Exclude All *\macintosh volume\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\macintosh volume\* Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\*.* > > Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\* > > Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local > > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server > > Exclude All *\Documents and Settings\...\Local > > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Server > > Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\*.* Server > > Exclude All *\...\Temporary Internet Files\* Server > > Exclude All *\...\EA DATA. SF Server > > Include All *\...\* Server > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\usrclass.dat.log Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\usrclass.dat Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\schedlgu.txt Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM\Repository\...\*.* Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\NtmsData\...\* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSDtc\trace\dtctrace.log Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSDTC\MSDTC.LOG Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\metabase.xml Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\metabase.bin Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\mbschema.xml Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\dns\dns.log Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\dns\backup\dns.log Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.log Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.alt Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.log Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\security.log Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\security Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\sam.log Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\sam Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default.log Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\System32\CatRoot2\...\* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\...\* Operating System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\SysEvent.Evt Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\SecEvent.Evt Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\NtFrs.Evt Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\NTDS.Evt Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\DnsEvent.Evt Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\AppEvent.Evt Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\system Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\software Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\SECURITY Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\SAM Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\default Operating > > System > > Exclude All > > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\ComRegistrationDatabase\... > > \* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\repair\asr.log Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\repair\asr.err Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\Registration\*.clb Operating System > > Exclude All c:\windows\ntfrs\jet\...\* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\NTDS\* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\NTDS* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\netlogon.chg Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\debug\NtFrs\NtFrs* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\debug\* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\WINDOWS\csc\...\* Operating System > > Exclude All C:\DOCUME~1\JOSHKN~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\1\...\* Operating > > System > > Exclude All C:\Documents and Settings\joshknorr\...\index.dat > > Operating System > > Exclude All C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\...\* > > Operating System > > Exclude All C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application > > Data\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\* Operating System > > Exclude All *\System Volume > > Information\MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase Operating System > > Exclude All *\System Volume > > Information\...\*{3808876B-C176-4e48-B7AE-04046E6CC752} Operating System > > Exclude All *\System Volume > > Information\*.{7cc467ef-6865-4831-853f-2a4817fd1bca}DB Operating System > > Exclude All *\System Volume > > Information\*.{7cc467ef-6865-4831-853f-2a4817fd1bca}ALT Operating System > > Exclude All *\Pagefile.sys Operating System > > Exclude All *\hiberfil.sys Operating System > > Exclude All *\...\*.crmlog Operating System > > Include All f:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget > > Office\* dsm.opt > > Include Archive *\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\...\system32\dns\...\* dsm.opt > > Include Archive *\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\...\system32\dhcp\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\...\system32\Perflib*.dat dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\...\system32\config\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\IO.SYS dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\IBMDOS.COM dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\IBMBIO.COM dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\...\EA DATA. SF dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* dsm.opt > > Exclude Archive *\microsoft uam volume\...\* dsm.opt > > Include Backup *\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\...\system32\dns\...\* dsm.opt > > Include Backup *\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\...\system32\dhcp\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\...\system32\Perflib*.dat dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\...\system32\config\...\* dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\IO.SYS dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\IBMDOS.COM dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\IBMBIO.COM dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\...\EA DATA. SF dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* dsm.opt > > Exclude Backup *\microsoft uam volume\...\* dsm.opt > > No DFS include/exclude statements defined. > > > > Fred Johanson > > TSM Administrator > > University of Chicago > > > > 773-702-8464 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Andrew Raibeck > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:48 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class > > > > Yes, but it's not position in the dsm.opt file that matters when client > > option sets are at issue. Use "dsmc query inclexcl" to see the final > > list > > that TSM actually uses. > > > > I suspect it is that client option set that is overriding the dsm.opt > > file. > > > > Regards, > > > > Andy > > > > Andy Raibeck > > IBM Software Group > > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development > > Level 3 Team Lead > > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: > > http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan > > ager.html > > > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > > The command line is your friend. > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> wrote on 11/29/2007 > > 02:41:26 PM: > > > > > Andy, > > > > > > His additions are at the bottom of his dsm.opt file. There is also a > > > client optionset that has: > > > > > > Include ?:* FILESERVER > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred Johanson > > > TSM Administrator > > > University of Chicago > > > > > > 773-702-8464 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of > > > Andrew Raibeck > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class > > > > > > Nothing wrong per se, although the second INCLUDE appears redundant. > > > > > > The first place to start with these kinds of issues is to use "dsmc > > > query > > > inclexcl" to makes sure those files aren't being picked up by an > > earlier > > > filter. > > > > > > Also make sure the updated policy was activated. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > Andy Raibeck > > > IBM Software Group > > > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development > > > Level 3 Team Lead > > > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: > > > > > http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan > > > ager.html > > > > > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > > > The command line is your friend. > > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> wrote on 11/29/2007 > > > 01:23:35 PM: > > > > > > > Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention > > policy > > > on > > > > their file share. The admin added this to the dsm.opt: > > > > > > > > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget > > > Office\*" > > > > LONGADMIN > > > > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget > > > > Office\*.*" LONGADMIN > > > > > > > > I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work. > > He's > > > > also tried 'f:...' with no effect. He says that he's restarted the > > > > service after each change. > > > > > > > > Can anyone see his error? > > > > > > > > Fred Johanson > > > > TSM Administrator > > > > University of Chicago > > > > > > > > 773-702-8464
