I'm not saying NOT to use OFS, it's available if you need it. But I don't recommend rolling it out to all Windows systems if there is no documented need for it.
On 1/17/08, Elana Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So how would you recommend to backup open PST files? Unfortunately in the > SMB space, most desktops are running Outlook and the users typically leave > their mail open at night. > > > Elana Samuels > Tier 1 Data Solutions Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Wanda Prather > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:26 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows Client question... > > Agreed. > I tell my customers NOT to install OFS unless they have a reason, and only > on systems where they know what the reason is. > It triggers a LOT of unncessary and pretty unintelligible VSS errors, and > is > usually doing nothing worthwhile. > > Look at your TSM daily reporter output on clients without OFS installed, > check the "missed file details". You'll find that 90% of the files that > are > missed are in the category of "usual suspects". You may want to sit down > with a Windows admin and get them to help you identify the missed files. > > Many will be ntuser.dat or ntuser.log files, or other parts of the user > profile. You rarely need backups of these unless you are backing up > desktops, and then the profiles are included in teh backup of System > State. > > > Most of the rest will be files that are clearly identifiable as DB parts > belonging to apps like SQL or Oracle. OFS support does not necessarily > give > you good backups of a data base, because there is no interface with the DB > journal/logs. So even if people THINK they are getting backups this way, > you probably shouldn't count on using them - the appropriate solution for > DB's is using a TDP client. > > Once you identify the missed files, you'll usually find there is nothing > on > the client that needs the OFS support - exception would be a locally > developed application. But I still wouldn't count on OFS being the > answer, > until somebody explains to me how the app works and what kind of backups > will give you appropriate restore and DR capability. (ANd then TEST to > make > sure the restored version is viable.) > > > > > > > > On 1/16/08, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > FWIW, I don't think it has ever been installed on any of our > 200 > Windows > > systems we backup. > > > > FYI, installing either of these WILL REQUIRE a reboot since it installs > a > > service/low-level driver. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Zoltan Forray > > Virginia Commonwealth University > > Office of Technology Services > > University Computing Center > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > voice: 804-828-4807 > > > > > > > > Ben Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > 01/16/2008 12:15 PM > > Please respond to > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > > > > > To > > ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > cc > > > > Subject > > [ADSM-L] Windows Client question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > I recently switched jobs and now am managing TSM in a mostly Windows > > environment (instead of the Unix world where I am comfortable). A new > > challenge... anyways.... > > > > On the Windows TSM client, there is the option to install the "Open file > > support" and the "Image Backup" support. Does everyone install these? > > Does it depend on what kind of DR you might have to do on the windows > > host? Forgive my Windows ignorance, > > > > I've read the manuals and it looks like the upside is the ability to > > backup open files, but the downside I am seeing is that there seems to > > be a lot of errors with the way it interfaces with the Windows native > > VSS service. It also looks like if these are installed and you want to > > upgrade the TSM client, it requires a reboot of the Windows client to > > get it done. Nobody wants to reboot a production server to upgrade its > > backup software. > > > > So what is everyone's opinion?: > > - "The Open file support is worth the hassle and should be installed on > > all TSM clients" > > - "The Open file support should be installed on certain systems" (if so, > > what is your criteria). > > - "The open file support is to much pain and should not be installed." > > > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > > The Blue Cross of Idaho Email Firewall Server made the following > > annotations: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > *Confidentiality Notice: > > > > This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual > > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > information that is privileged, confidential and exempt > > from disclosure under applicable law. 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