Hey, you asked... :) Ha! I'm about ready to use all of this here disposable income that I don't have to pay because of VCB and buy from Kelly. I'm not really happy with our setup...
-----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Yeah... This post has really cleared things up for me. Not. ;) Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thorneycroft, Doug Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Wouldn't it be nice if we could just issue q lic and pay X$ for each Managed System, or to issue a q auditocc, sum up the Total Storage Used column and multiply by X$ per MB or GB or TB. There must be some way for IBM to set a well defined, and easy to understand licensing plan, based on easy to find statistics. -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Howard Coles Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Steve's response does make more sense, due to the fact that you are backing up the VMware server, not just the VCB, and not licensing the VMware host would cut seriously into IBM's profits. However, I'd like to think Kelly's is true and I've heard that from more than one person. See Ya' Howard > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Schaub, Steve > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > > That depends on who you talk to - some Tivoli reps will say that the > VMWare host cores need licenses as well. > -steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > Kelly Lipp > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > > The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB proxy > server running the TSM client. > > Kelly Lipp > ________________________________________ > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Schaub, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > > FYI - the waters get even murkier when you start down the VCB path. > > Try posing this scenario to your Tivoli rep: all VMWare guest backups > have been offloaded to VCB proxy servers, and the TSM client has been > uninstalled from the guests. No TSM software exists on the VM hosts at > all. > > Now ask them which physical cores need to be counted for Tivoli > licensing - the answer may surprise you. > > Steve Schaub > Systems Engineer, Windows > Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee > 423-535-6574 (desk) > 423-785-7347 (mobile) > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > cpreston > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > > Wanda Prather wrote: > > Licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you > want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. > > > > > Just to be clear -- that includes TDP licenses? There was a question > today on the list ( http://tinyurl.com/47zjbe ) where at least one of > the answers seemed the opposite of what you're saying, and another said > "nobody knows." > > I speak about VMware backups, and so I get asked this a lot. 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