... and while I agree with you in principle, in reality, there are lots of occasions where you will find unskilled people making the decisions based on what the 'techno-geek' (myself included) are spouting to them. Oft-times they don't understand much if any at all, so in addition to references (which they better check), the cert is yet another benchmark they can apply.
If the certs were done properly, then they wouldn't be so laughable. But to some extent, they're better than nothing, as you had to at least have had the data pass >through> the brain and back <out< again to pass the cert exam. If you have the time, money, and people, I agree. Frequently that isn't all available to the purchasers, let alone people on their side who can evaluate the resulting plan. Many thanks! Bruce T. >>> Bruce T. Harvey AIX Network Engineer PNC Bank @ Rivertech office 301-699-4013 facsimile 301-887-4070 mobile 443-465-1204 "Allen S. Rout" <[email protected]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> 07/29/10 12:52 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Not technical more managerial question >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:39:05 -0400, "Bruce T. Harvey" <[email protected]> said: > My two cents: If they person doesn't hold a IBM Certified Advanced > Deployment Professional - IBM Service Management Tivoli Storage > Management Solutions V2 certification, then I'd want them to be at > least a Deployment Professional in TSM and have performed the > archtecting of at least one or two successful TSM-based > implementations. Or have implemented many successful TSM-based > solutions of varying complexity. I'm going to come down hard on the other side of the 'certification' question. I think an 'architect' needs to have implemented a lot of varying server configs. She needs to be able to effectively communicate to skilled sysadmins the tradeoffs of various config decisions. She needs to be able to calmly support her design calls against hostile internal competition. I think that certs are possibly a timesaver for decisionmaking by technically unskilled executives. However, they are a red herring far more than they communicate skill. I say this having been certified for v3, v4, v5 TSM: this is not sour grapes. Precisely because they are easy to measure, certs are targets for the clueless; squeak by, and you're done. The cert tests are laughable manual-regurgitation exercises; and the manuals are sometimes wrong. Sometimes ludicrously so. If we alternately stipulate good certs do you ever check the certifying authority? Maybe they're lying. HR won't check. ... All of this means to me that certs are neither necessary, nor sufficient, to establish anything relevant to doing the job. So I'd say don't put it in unless your chain demands it: instead require that applicants be prepared to discuss different server config design decisions they've made over the years. The candidate you want will be delighted to show off thought processes and evolution. - Allen S. Rout The contents of this email are the property of PNC. If it was not addressed to you, you have no legal right to read it. If you think you received it in error, please notify the sender. Do not forward or copy without permission of the sender. This message may contain an advertisement of a product or service and thus may constitute a commercial electronic mail message under US Law. The postal address for PNC is 249 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15222. If you do not wish to receive any additional advertising or promotional messages from PNC at this e-mail address, click here to unsubscribe. https://pnc.p.delivery.net/m/u/pnc/uni/p.asp By unsubscribing to this message, you will be unsubscribed from all advertising or promotional messages from PNC. Removing your e-mail address from this mailing list will not affect your subscription to alerts, e-newsletters or account servicing e-mails.
