Hi Robert, thanks for the followup. This was reported by IBM as a known issue with 6.4. OC
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21640656#OC_641_known_issues__DISK_critical Regards, Hans Chr. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Robert Jose <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Hans Chr. > Thanks for the feedback on your experience with Operations Center. I > understand your frustration and would be frustrated in your shoes also. I > also wanted to explain why we decided to couple TSM Server with Operations > Center and why we think in the long run it is the correct choice. The main > reason is performance. While you are correct that having a defect that > resides on the TSM Server side will take time to fix, once it is defect > free, the performance will be much greater than any other 3rd party > application. There are a lot of instances where selecting on a wrong > column can be fixed in the Operations Center. In these cases, we can get a > fix out very quickly (especially if you are willing to help us test it > also :) ). > > Was an APAR created for this issue? I would love to see the issue. > > Thanks again and I do hope you will provide more feedback in the future. > > > Rob Jose > TSM OC UI Developer / L3 Support > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> wrote on 01/31/2015 > 07:30:16 AM: > > > From: Hans Christian Riksheim <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Date: 01/31/2015 07:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM AC and OC and 7.1.1 Was: RE: [ADSM-L] TSM rant > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[email protected]> > > > > We have tried OC twice and are not happy and that is due to its design. > > > > Other 3d party monitoring/administration tools we use are completely > > separate from the TSM server environment and only talks to TSM through an > > API(dsmcad/SQL). This means that any bug fix or feature enhancement in > the > > administration tools can be deployed without touching the TSM > environment. > > When we have reported bugs in the tools we have obtained fixes quickly, > one > > time a patch was ready the day after we reported the bug. > > > > OC on the other hand is tightly integrated with the TSM server code > itself. > > That means two things. First we have to take down and upgrade our TSM > > servers to the bleeding edge only to fix things with OC. That is an > > administrative burden and also a huge risk. Second problem is the time > from > > a bug is detected to a patch is available. The bug with caching diskpool > > was discovered in 6.4.1 but a fix wasn't ready before the 6.3.5 server > > code. That is one year for something which should take a developer 5 > > minutes to fix(select on wrong column). > > > > With 10 years of ISC/Admin Center and now OC we will not waste any more > > time on IBMs administrative tools. And with the recent progress of TSM > > itself we have to think long and hard on what to do before our current > > license period is up. > > > > Regards > > > > Hans Chr. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Prather, Wanda <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Jeanne, > > > > > > We are in a transition as the OC is getting more function with each > > > release, but doesn't yet have everything the AC had. > > > > > > The OC is the new/current admin GUI. The 7.1.1 version has client > > > scheduling in it now, so it can do more of the admin tasks you need. > > > In the 7.1.1 version you can view management classes and maintenance > plan, > > > but still can't change them. That will come in a later release of the > OC. > > > > > > The old AC has been "stabilized" at 6.3 and will not be developed > further, > > > but can still be used. > > > If you put on the latest AC patch level from the FTP site (6.3.5), you > can > > > talk to your 7.1 server with it (minus any new function since 6.3, of > > > course). > > > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/ > > maintenance/admincenter/v6r3/6.3.5.000/ > > > > > > So you probably want to put the patch on your AC so you can keep using > it > > > for mgmt. classes and basic functions with your 7.1.1 server, while you > > > also install the 7.1.1 OC and start getting used to it for basic > > > administration, and taking advantage of the new visualization and > > > monitoring it provides that the AC never did. > > > > > > Wanda Prather > > > TSM Consultant > > > ICF International Enterprise and Cybersecurity Systems Division > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > > > Jeanne Bruno > > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:31 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM rant > > > > > > For Windows version 7.1.1.00 is it now called TSM "Operations Center"?? > > > 7.1.1.000-TIV-TSMOC-Windows.exe > > > > > > I want to upgrade from v 6.3.3 to v7.1 for Admin Server and the OC was > all > > > I found.......is this what you've found also?? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > > > Stef Coene > > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:24 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM rant > > > > > > On Thursday 29 January 2015 21:14:08 you wrote: > > > > FWIW, > > > > I've also been through a lot of problems with dedup, it has been > > > > disappointing. On TSM servers not using dedup I haven't seen many > > > > problems at the latest levels. > > > > > > > > Curious to know what you just installed? > > > > On 7.1.1 on Windows, select * from processes works just fine... > > > Fresh install: > > > Server Version 7, Release 1, Level 1.100 Red Hat Enterprise Linux > Server > > > release 6.6 (Santiago) > > > > > > > > > Stef > > > > > >
