There is a doer. The doer was your father's sperm which fertilized your mother's egg. So there are two doers who give rise to a new doer by merging. Your doership has started at that point.
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I would shorten the buddha statement by saying 'It's all spontaneous!' > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > ------------------------------ > *From: * Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:10:20 +0100 > *To: *roomsearching<[email protected]> > *Cc: *Marcus<[email protected]>; Advaita-Zen< > [email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: Mr. Buddha > > It could be a skin cell making a bid to escape to make dust! > > No single cell in my body is the same as the body I had seven years ago. > > There is no real personality, it is imagined, there is no real physical me > either. > > The real me might be multiplex of energy waveforms holding particles in > form from birth to death. > > Then beyond 1963 the energy that apparantly moves always here > > particles? > > always here > > I assert particles appearing as people cannot answer the question. > > There IS a definition of doer. > > Perhaps apparant people carry out subtasks? Which by definition would still > be DOING. > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 18 Jun 2010, at 22:44, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is a doer . But that doer is not an individual doer. It is a > universal doer. > > That doer could be a molecule of protein in your body trying to fight > bacteria in your anus. > > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:58 PM, roomsearching < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> There is no doer of things. Things just happen. >> >> The best example I can give is : >> >> When you cut a snake's head off, and chop the body into several pieces, >> the pieces still keep on moving. >> So who is the doer ? Its all a movement of the chemicals in the cell. >> >> Watch this Chinese chef do the magic in Chinese speed cooking. >> >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Hn7OkAW0o> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Hn7OkAW0o >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Marcus < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> . >>> >>> >>> Very interesting, thanks Marko. >>> >>> Could it be. That the Buddha is saying. Sentient beings. >>> Circumstance has always dictated the occurrence. We in our selfish >>> delusions believe we are individual and as such, are doing deeds. >>> This we know to only be true in a superficial sense. That from the >>> deeper aspect of our being we now see how in real trams, there is >>> only a momentary whole-ness in a perpetual change motion. How we >>> with these simple senses are not equipped to experience most of the “ >>> Events happening” and therefore use intellect to “imagine” reality. >>> >>> I never meet the Buddha but I love the stuff he said. A beautiful >>> mind. I think we are very lucky he was rich and famous. They took >>> notice of his words and recorded them. Most enlighten teachings >>> are ignored. >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> On Jun 18, 8:11 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> > 'Events happen, deeds are done but there is no individual doer at all.' >>> > Buddha >>> > >>> > Who has the guts to question what buddha said? >>> > Come on!! >>> > : )) >>> > >>> > P.s. and please don't come up with the quote 'If you see Buddha on the >>> street, kill him.' >>> > Please! >>> > >>> > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >> >> >> >
