*If you see the deepest core of your existence as the same in everybody else, why would you go around killing others ? An enlightened person will value what he is. So he will value everyone else as himself. It is the beginning of true morality. Not for the sake of maintaining order in society or following the laws laid down by the government. It is just a natural way of being. Callousness of UG is also a projection. The Self is just peace. You want to be in solitude. To be left alone to yourself. Where is the projection here ? I would really like to go around and spread my love. But it is not an easy task. People have their daily routines and commitments. So there is no need to go around preaching. Just let them fuck themselves and suffer. I am an enlightened person and I have compassion. By compassion, I mean that there is no difference between me and anyone else at the level of the Self. *
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > . > > Why does an action need to be distinguished as compassionate or > aggressive. Who is the judge ? > > When Hitler murdered all those people he thought he was being > compassionate toward the human gene-pool. > Compassion was it when the Romans throw the Christians to the > lions. > > History has an endless string of real examples of our ability to be > compassionate. > > Compassion and aggression are simple labels within the essential world > of dualistic illusions. This means they no substance within this > illusion of reality. > > Yet if someone chooses, they can also rise above this our illusion > and reconnect with the whole. No enlightenment or awakening. Just a > true purity of being. > > Such people realise. Helping others, giving and loving are just the > best way to share this illusion. > What you judge as compassionate is simply common sense when truth is > realised. > > > . > On 2 July, 12:19, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > UG might say he is callous. > > > > But he did send a message to everyone to be free. That itself is > compassion. > > > > He may say he is callous. But he welcomed anyone who wanted to talk to > him > > to his house. > > > > He used to meet thousands of people all over the world. > > > > A callous uncompassionate brute will not do such things. > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kuber Technologies < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Questioner: Is a person in the natural state compassionate? > > > > > U.G. Krishnamurti: That is your projection; they are callous, > indifferent, > > > unconcerned. 'Compassion' is one of the gimmicks of the 'holy > business', > > > sales talk. Do you think this individual is conscious that he is full > of > > > compassion? If he is, it is not compassion. > > > > > ------------ > > > > > UG would not have know compassion even if it reared up and bit his > natural > > > ass. > > > > > The typical connotation of the term "compassion" is someone being > > > compassionate( in whatever manner) to someone who needs to be > > > compassionated. > > > > > Whether the natural state or the unnatural state(there being really no > > > such distinction)... > > > > > ..there are no entities involved ......where...... as a nuance of > > > existing.... the flavour is of compassion, empathy, enmity or > > > indifference. > > > > > That is to say......it is not that when some esoteric exalted state > ofsagacity has happened...... only after that event.........there is no > > > entity involved, there is no separation involved. > > > > > Non-entitification, non-separation, is the case, whether in the > particularmilieu... > > > > > ... a sage (as held by the audience to be a sage) speaks to a > seeker......or > > > two warring nations threaten to obliterate the other .....in the name > of > > > democracy or in the name of Allah. > > > > > Whether it is seen to be acts of compassion or genocide...... > > > > > .....it is always the Duet of One. > > > > > In this Duet of One......compassion or empathy......is akin the > rushingof the hand to cup the bleeding toe and ease the pain, when the toe > got > > > stubbed. > > > > > The compassionate hand does not see itself separate to the > > > bleeding/painful toe. > > > > > Nor does it see itself as the same. > > > > > The ideation of separation or the ideation of non-separation...... > > > > > .....both are meaningless, irrelevant in the immediacy of the > actioning. > > > > > Even the term "immediacy" is misleading for it suggests that there > are > > > some actions which are spontaneous and some which are delayed in > time......being affected by deliberation, pondering, thinking etc etc. > > > > > The deliberation is immediate, the pondering is immediate, the > reflection > > > is immediate and the physical actualization of all these immediate > mentations......into an action or series of actions (if at all).......is > > > also immediate. > > > > > When there is nothing which is not immediate........the term immediacy > > > becomes superfluous. > > > > > That is why the apperception of Advaita is the immediate primordial > mirth > > > at the concept of both Dvait as well as Advait.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
