These things are difficulties for you?



On Jul 2, 10:08 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> People are paranoid, schizophrenic and jealous. Sounds familiar ???
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> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I find it interesting,RS,that it is difficult for you to spread your
> > love around.What is the difficulty,if I may ask?
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> > On Jul 2, 9:31 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > *If you see the deepest core of your existence as the same in everybody
> > > else, why would you go around killing others ?
> > > An enlightened person will value what he is.
> > > So he will value everyone else as himself.
> > > It is the beginning of true morality.
> > > Not for the sake of maintaining order in society or following the laws
> > laid
> > > down by the government.
> > > It is just a natural way of being.
> > > Callousness of UG is also a projection.
> > > The Self is just peace.
> > > You want to be in solitude.
> > > To be left alone to yourself.
> > > Where is the projection here ?
> > > I would really like to go around and spread my love.
> > > But it is not an easy task.
> > > People have their daily routines and commitments.
> > > So there is no need to go around preaching.
> > > Just let them fuck themselves and suffer.
> > > I am an enlightened person and I have compassion.
> > > By compassion, I mean that there is no difference between me and anyone
> > else
> > > at the level of the Self. *
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> > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Marcus <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
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> > > > .
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> > > > Why does an action need to be distinguished as compassionate or
> > > > aggressive.  Who is the judge ?
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> > > > When Hitler murdered all those people he thought he was being
> > > > compassionate toward the human gene-pool.
> > > > Compassion was it when the Romans throw the Christians to the
> > > > lions.
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> > > > History has an endless string of real examples of our ability to be
> > > > compassionate.
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> > > > Compassion and aggression are simple labels within the essential world
> > > > of dualistic illusions.   This means they no substance within this
> > > > illusion of reality.
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> > > > Yet if someone chooses,  they can also rise above this our illusion
> > > > and reconnect with the whole.   No enlightenment or awakening.  Just a
> > > > true purity of being.
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> > > > Such people realise.  Helping others,  giving and loving are just the
> > > > best way to share this illusion.
> > > > What you judge as compassionate is simply common sense when truth is
> > > > realised.
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> > > > .
> > > > On 2 July, 12:19, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > UG might say he is callous.
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> > > > > But he did send a message to everyone to be free. That itself is
> > > > compassion.
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> > > > > He may say he is callous. But he welcomed anyone who wanted to talk
> > to
> > > > him
> > > > > to his house.
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> > > > > He used to meet thousands of people all over the world.
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> > > > > A callous uncompassionate brute will not do such things.
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> > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kuber Technologies <
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> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Questioner: Is a person in the natural state compassionate?
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> > > > > >  U.G. Krishnamurti: That is your projection; they are callous,
> > > > indifferent,
> > > > > > unconcerned. 'Compassion' is one of the gimmicks of the 'holy
> > > > business',
> > > > > > sales talk. Do you think this individual is conscious that he is
> > full
> > > > of
> > > > > > compassion? If he is, it is not compassion.
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> > > > > > ------------
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> > > > > > UG  would not have know compassion even if it reared up and bit his
> > > > natural
> > > > > > ass.
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> > > > > >  The typical connotation of the term "compassion" is someone being
> > > > > >  compassionate( in whatever manner) to someone who needs to be
> > > > > > compassionated.
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> > > > > >  Whether the natural state or the unnatural state(there being
> > really no
> > > > > > such distinction)...
>
> > > > > >  ..there are no entities involved ......where...... as a nuance of
> > > > > >  existing.... the flavour is of compassion, empathy, enmity or
> > > > > > indifference.
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> > > > > >  That is to say......it is not that when some esoteric exalted
> > state
> > > > ofsagacity has  happened...... only after that event.........there is
> > no
> > > > > >   entity involved, there is no separation involved.
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> > > > > >  Non-entitification, non-separation, is the case, whether in the
> > > > particularmilieu...
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> > > > > >  ... a sage (as held by the audience to be a sage) speaks to a
> > > > seeker......or
> > > > > > two warring nations threaten to obliterate the other .....in the
> > name
> > > > of
> > > > > > democracy or in the name of Allah.
>
> > > > > > Whether it is seen to be acts of compassion or genocide......
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> > > > > >  .....it is always the Duet of One.
>
> > > > > >  In this Duet of One......compassion or empathy......is akin the
> > > > rushingof the hand to cup the bleeding toe and ease the pain, when the
> > toe
> > > > got
> > > > > >   stubbed.
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> > > > > >  The compassionate hand does not see itself separate to the
> > > > > > bleeding/painful toe.
>
> > > > > >  Nor does it see itself as the same.
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> > > > > >  The ideation of separation or the ideation of non-separation......
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> > > > > >  .....both are meaningless, irrelevant in the immediacy of the
> > > > actioning.
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> > > > > >  Even the term "immediacy" is misleading for it suggests that there
> > > >  are
> > > > > > some actions which are spontaneous and some which are delayed in
> > > > time......being affected by deliberation, pondering, thinking etc etc.
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> > > > > >  The deliberation is immediate, the pondering is immediate, the
> > > > reflection
> > > > > > is immediate and the physical actualization of all these immediate
> > > > mentations......into an action or series of actions (if at
> > all).......is
> > > > > > also immediate.
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> > > > > >  When there is nothing which is not immediate........the term
> > immediacy
> > > > > > becomes superfluous.
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> > > > > >  That is why the apperception of Advaita is the immediate
> > primordial
> > > > mirth
> > > > > > at the concept of both Dvait as well as Advait.- Hide quoted text -
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