I still don't see that and I was paraphrasing expletives. Your "fuck them" attitude is interesting for someone who claims to emanate positive energy and experience bliss.
My experience of pure bliss is that people are amazing. Life is amazing. The most important part of Tai Chi is the tea ceremony. My Tai Chi companions are mainly octogenarians. They talk about pleasure and pain, likes and dislikes. I like seeing the variety. Where people are at. I like you and seeing where you are at. I want you to know I am neither berating you nor putting you down. You are already perfect. What there is to notice is taking a position over those who you are better than may be the source of something for you that has tricked your mind into thinking you have risen to a higher place. I want you to know I have deliberately attacked you on this forum to get you to take a position and I apologise. In a sense I am probably doing much the same as you only with higher stakes. The people you are calling boring are the perfect expression of love. When we see they are expressing love in the best way they can, given their filters and constraints, then we can look at them and say "hello God, my beloved guru, would you like another biscuit, tell me about the weather". Empatice Mark Sent from an iPhone On 3 Jul 2010, at 12:41, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > People talking about last night's tv programmes and biscuits and chocolates > is boring. > They are all in their minds. Talking likes and dislikes. Pleasure and pain. > I am beyond all these and do not participate in such stupidity. > Especially when you get that over and over again for a year. > People are boring. > > > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > wrote: > Finding people fucking boring is not an emanation of positive energy mate > > Look again, people are utterly fascinating. > > What are they saying that you are not listening to (that you can't hear > because it is drowned out by your inner dialogue about avoiding boring > people?) > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 2 Jul 2010, at 16:33, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Rodger, we don't really need to do anything. >> The presence of jnanis in the world will automatically uplift the spirit of >> people. >> I have several people in my workplace I don't talk to because I find them >> fucking boring and attention seekers. I hope they learn silence from me some >> day. But the chances are very low. >> Its just that we need to emanate positive energy in the world. >> A few of these people feed on other's positive energy and suck them like >> parasites. >> I found it very hard to deal with these negative types. >> They are like born predators, sucking on people's energies to survive. >> It becomes difficult in these situations because they have their huge ego's >> at stake. >> They decorate their bodies, they improve their language skills, they are >> masters at inane intellectual arguments. Sometimes negative types congregate >> into large flocks and do gossipping and bitching around. >> They want to spread around their frustrations of their unhappy lives. >> This is the unfortunate pattern of the formation of societies. >> This pattern can be only broken by a few. >> Politics is at the root of every social interaction. >> Hence I try not to have friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >> These things are difficulties for you? >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 2, 10:08 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> > People are paranoid, schizophrenic and jealous. Sounds familiar ??? >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > I find it interesting,RS,that it is difficult for you to spread your >> > > love around.What is the difficulty,if I may ask? >> > >> > > On Jul 2, 9:31 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > *If you see the deepest core of your existence as the same in everybody >> > > > else, why would you go around killing others ? >> > > > An enlightened person will value what he is. >> > > > So he will value everyone else as himself. >> > > > It is the beginning of true morality. >> > > > Not for the sake of maintaining order in society or following the laws >> > > laid >> > > > down by the government. >> > > > It is just a natural way of being. >> > > > Callousness of UG is also a projection. >> > > > The Self is just peace. >> > > > You want to be in solitude. >> > > > To be left alone to yourself. >> > > > Where is the projection here ? >> > > > I would really like to go around and spread my love. >> > > > But it is not an easy task. >> > > > People have their daily routines and commitments. >> > > > So there is no need to go around preaching. >> > > > Just let them fuck themselves and suffer. >> > > > I am an enlightened person and I have compassion. >> > > > By compassion, I mean that there is no difference between me and anyone >> > > else >> > > > at the level of the Self. * >> > >> > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > . >> > >> > > > > Why does an action need to be distinguished as compassionate or >> > > > > aggressive. Who is the judge ? >> > >> > > > > When Hitler murdered all those people he thought he was being >> > > > > compassionate toward the human gene-pool. >> > > > > Compassion was it when the Romans throw the Christians to the >> > > > > lions. >> > >> > > > > History has an endless string of real examples of our ability to be >> > > > > compassionate. >> > >> > > > > Compassion and aggression are simple labels within the essential >> > > > > world >> > > > > of dualistic illusions. This means they no substance within this >> > > > > illusion of reality. >> > >> > > > > Yet if someone chooses, they can also rise above this our illusion >> > > > > and reconnect with the whole. No enlightenment or awakening. Just >> > > > > a >> > > > > true purity of being. >> > >> > > > > Such people realise. Helping others, giving and loving are just the >> > > > > best way to share this illusion. >> > > > > What you judge as compassionate is simply common sense when truth is >> > > > > realised. >> > >> > > > > . >> > > > > On 2 July, 12:19, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > UG might say he is callous. >> > >> > > > > > But he did send a message to everyone to be free. That itself is >> > > > > compassion. >> > >> > > > > > He may say he is callous. But he welcomed anyone who wanted to talk >> > > to >> > > > > him >> > > > > > to his house. >> > >> > > > > > He used to meet thousands of people all over the world. >> > >> > > > > > A callous uncompassionate brute will not do such things. >> > >> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kuber Technologies < >> > >> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > Questioner: Is a person in the natural state compassionate? >> > >> > > > > > > U.G. Krishnamurti: That is your projection; they are callous, >> > > > > indifferent, >> > > > > > > unconcerned. 'Compassion' is one of the gimmicks of the 'holy >> > > > > business', >> > > > > > > sales talk. Do you think this individual is conscious that he is >> > > full >> > > > > of >> > > > > > > compassion? If he is, it is not compassion. >> > >> > > > > > > ------------ >> > >> > > > > > > UG would not have know compassion even if it reared up and bit >> > > > > > > his >> > > > > natural >> > > > > > > ass. >> > >> > > > > > > The typical connotation of the term "compassion" is someone >> > > > > > > being >> > > > > > > compassionate( in whatever manner) to someone who needs to be >> > > > > > > compassionated. >> > >> > > > > > > Whether the natural state or the unnatural state(there being >> > > really no >> > > > > > > such distinction)... >> > >> > > > > > > ..there are no entities involved ......where...... as a nuance >> > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > existing.... the flavour is of compassion, empathy, enmity or >> > > > > > > indifference. >> > >> > > > > > > That is to say......it is not that when some esoteric exalted >> > > state >> > > > > ofsagacity has happened...... only after that event.........there is >> > > no >> > > > > > > entity involved, there is no separation involved. >> > >> > > > > > > Non-entitification, non-separation, is the case, whether in the >> > > > > particularmilieu... >> > >> > > > > > > ... a sage (as held by the audience to be a sage) speaks to a >> > > > > seeker......or >> > > > > > > two warring nations threaten to obliterate the other .....in the >> > > name >> > > > > of >> > > > > > > democracy or in the name of Allah. >> > >> > > > > > > Whether it is seen to be acts of compassion or genocide...... >> > >> > > > > > > .....it is always the Duet of One. >> > >> > > > > > > In this Duet of One......compassion or empathy......is akin the >> > > > > rushingof the hand to cup the bleeding toe and ease the pain, when >> > > > > the >> > > toe >> > > > > got >> > > > > > > stubbed. >> > >> > > > > > > The compassionate hand does not see itself separate to the >> > > > > > > bleeding/painful toe. >> > >> > > > > > > Nor does it see itself as the same. >> > >> > > > > > > The ideation of separation or the ideation of >> > > > > > > non-separation...... >> > >> > > > > > > .....both are meaningless, irrelevant in the immediacy of the >> > > > > actioning. >> > >> > > > > > > Even the term "immediacy" is misleading for it suggests that >> > > > > > > there >> > > > > are >> > > > > > > some actions which are spontaneous and some which are delayed in >> > > > > time......being affected by deliberation, pondering, thinking etc >> > > > > etc. >> > >> > > > > > > The deliberation is immediate, the pondering is immediate, the >> > > > > reflection >> > > > > > > is immediate and the physical actualization of all these >> > > > > > > immediate >> > > > > mentations......into an action or series of actions (if at >> > > all).......is >> > > > > > > also immediate. >> > >> > > > > > > When there is nothing which is not immediate........the term >> > > immediacy >> > > > > > > becomes superfluous. >> > >> > > > > > > That is why the apperception of Advaita is the immediate >> > > primordial >> > > > > mirth >> > > > > > > at the concept of both Dvait as well as Advait.- Hide quoted >> > > > > > > text - >> > >> > > > > > - Show quoted text - >> >
