I could say you are since you're question creates a response.That response is automatic,I think.However,the manner in which I respond may or may not be.I mean,I could've just said fuck off or I could try to answer intelligently.(Marko might say I have never answered anything intelligently.) :)
So,we control to the extent possible...which depends on? Ultimately we are being lived,I think. On Jul 6, 6:24 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > . > > Interesting Rodger, > > Who else is in control of you ??? > > . > > On 6 July, 12:20, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't know about full control,Marcus.But I can get what you're > > saying.No,not a new idea.Still a good one. > > > On Jul 6, 6:13 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > . > > > > Have you ever research the sacred law of reflection. > > > It suggests that our interpretation of the world is a consequence of > > > what we have inside our hearts and mind. > > > > In other words. We see evil, boring and ugly things because that we > > > can only observe reflections of our own condition. > > > > It’s not a new idea. “as a man thinks, so shall he be” > > > > We define all experiences by the instrument with which we measure. > > > We define life experiences by what we are. > > > > Take full control ......... shine your light. > > > > . > > > > On 6 July, 11:17, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Can I suggest you either didn't write this yourself? Or you haven't > > > > read it properly if you find people at work "fucking boring" RS > > > > > Sent from an iPhone > > > > > On 2 Jul 2010, at 15:31, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If you see the deepest core of your existence as the same in > > > > > everybody else, why would you go around killing others ? > > > > > An enlightened person will value what he is. > > > > > So he will value everyone else as himself. > > > > > It is the beginning of true morality. > > > > > Not for the sake of maintaining order in society or following the > > > > > laws laid down by the government. > > > > > It is just a natural way of being. > > > > > Callousness of UG is also a projection. > > > > > The Self is just peace. > > > > > You want to be in solitude. > > > > > To be left alone to yourself. > > > > > Where is the projection here ? > > > > > I would really like to go around and spread my love. > > > > > But it is not an easy task. > > > > > People have their daily routines and commitments. > > > > > So there is no need to go around preaching. > > > > > Just let them fuck themselves and suffer. > > > > > I am an enlightened person and I have compassion. > > > > > By compassion, I mean that there is no difference between me and > > > > > anyone else at the level of the Self. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > . > > > > > > Why does an action need to be distinguished as compassionate or > > > > > aggressive. Who is the judge ? > > > > > > When Hitler murdered all those people he thought he was being > > > > > compassionate toward the human gene-pool. > > > > > Compassion was it when the Romans throw the Christians to the > > > > > lions. > > > > > > History has an endless string of real examples of our ability to be > > > > > compassionate. > > > > > > Compassion and aggression are simple labels within the essential world > > > > > of dualistic illusions. This means they no substance within this > > > > > illusion of reality. > > > > > > Yet if someone chooses, they can also rise above this our illusion > > > > > and reconnect with the whole. No enlightenment or awakening. Just a > > > > > true purity of being. > > > > > > Such people realise. Helping others, giving and loving are just the > > > > > best way to share this illusion. > > > > > What you judge as compassionate is simply common sense when truth is > > > > > realised. > > > > > > . > > > > > On 2 July, 12:19, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > UG might say he is callous. > > > > > > > But he did send a message to everyone to be free. That itself is > > > > > > compassion. > > > > > > > He may say he is callous. But he welcomed anyone who wanted to talk > > > > > > to him > > > > > > to his house. > > > > > > > He used to meet thousands of people all over the world. > > > > > > > A callous uncompassionate brute will not do such things. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kuber Technologies < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Questioner: Is a person in the natural state compassionate? > > > > > > > > U.G. Krishnamurti: That is your projection; they are callous, > > > > > > > indifferent, > > > > > > > unconcerned. 'Compassion' is one of the gimmicks of the 'holy > > > > > > > business', > > > > > > > sales talk. Do you think this individual is conscious that he is > > > > > > > full of > > > > > > > compassion? If he is, it is not compassion. > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > UG would not have know compassion even if it reared up and bit > > > > > > > his natural > > > > > > > ass. > > > > > > > > The typical connotation of the term "compassion" is someone being > > > > > > > compassionate( in whatever manner) to someone who needs to be > > > > > > > compassionated. > > > > > > > > Whether the natural state or the unnatural state(there being > > > > > > > really no > > > > > > > such distinction)... > > > > > > > > ..there are no entities involved ......where...... as a nuance of > > > > > > > existing.... the flavour is of compassion, empathy, enmity or > > > > > > > indifference. > > > > > > > > That is to say......it is not that when some esoteric exalted > > > > > > > state ofsagacity has happened...... only after that > > > > > > > event.........there is no > > > > > > > entity involved, there is no separation involved. > > > > > > > > Non-entitification, non-separation, is the case, whether in the > > > > > > > particularmilieu... > > > > > > > > ... a sage (as held by the audience to be a sage) speaks to a > > > > > > > seeker......or > > > > > > > two warring nations threaten to obliterate the other .....in the > > > > > > > name of > > > > > > > democracy or in the name of Allah. > > > > > > > > Whether it is seen to be acts of compassion or genocide...... > > > > > > > > .....it is always the Duet of One. > > > > > > > > In this Duet of One......compassion or empathy......is akin the > > > > > > > rushingof the hand to cup the bleeding toe and ease the pain, > > > > > > > when the toe got > > > > > > > stubbed. > > > > > > > > The compassionate hand does not see itself separate to the > > > > > > > bleeding/painful toe. > > > > > > > > Nor does it see itself as the same. > > > > > > > > The ideation of separation or the ideation of > > > > > > > non-separation...... > > > > > > > > .....both are meaningless, irrelevant in the immediacy of the > > > > > > > actioning. > > > > > > > > Even the term "immediacy" is misleading for it suggests that > > > > > > > there are > > > > > > > some actions which are spontaneous and some which are delayed in > > > > > > > time......being affected by deliberation, pondering, thinking etc > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > The deliberation is immediate, the pondering is immediate, the > > > > > > > reflection > > > > > > > is immediate and the physical actualization of all these > > > > > > > immediate mentations......into an action or series of actions (if > > > > > > > at all).......is > > > > > > > also immediate. > > > > > > > > When there is nothing which is not immediate........the term > > > > > > > immediacy > > > > > > > becomes superfluous. > > > > > > > > That is why the apperception of Advaita is the immediate > > > > > > > primordial mirth > > > > > > > at the concept of both Dvait as well as Advait.- Hide quoted text > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
