On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote:

> "When or where do you see the
> spiritual emerging from a non-spiritual experience."
>
> To me, part of it anyway, it is when I see another struggling in
> misery in the darkness (completely immersed in ones ego).
> Then reaching a hand out to help shed some of that darkness.
>
Wow! what the hell do you exactly mean by the above statements ?

>
> Another part is when I listen or watch, without attaching anything to
> what I am witnessing and just watch everything unfold and refold.

Wow, that is as abstract as a Picasso painting.


> It's
> a spiritual experience to watch the natural flow or movement of life.
>
Do you watch the flow of your urine too often in the toilet ?


> Unfortunately, I can not seem to "hold on to" such an experience for
> long, because I tend to let my attention follow my thoughts much more
> often than I would like.
>
True. Watching the movement of urine gets boring after sometime.

>
> "A lack of ego(or really self).........cannot see an ego or self in
> anybody
> else or in anything else".
> Then why did you notice that someone was in a deep darkness and lost in
> their own ego ?
>

> I have noticed that by deeply listening or closely watching an
> another, I see or listen "beyond" (for lack of a better word) the Ego
> to a point to where I don't see the ego in another.
>
You mean you lose your own ego. If you see an ego in someone, you are seeing
it in yourself right ?


> I have to be completely immersed in what I am doing experience this.
> Again, I have a hard time maintaining that focus as I tend to get
> tangled in, and follow my own thoughts more often than I would like.
>
You seem to give an impression like "even such a great person like me finds
it hard to maintain focus".
That is a bit patronising.


> On Aug 2, 6:57 am, Kuber Technologies <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Kali,
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Mahakali <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Hi everyone
> >
> > > we all know the difference between spiritual and non-spiritual. We
> > > have gone through endless debates and discussions on spirituality.
> >
> > > But, in real life, where do you draw the line between what is
> > > spiritual and what is non-spiritual? When or where do you see the
> > > spiritual emerging from a non-spiritual experience of viceversa?
> >
> > > To me, it is seen in my reactions and attitude towards life i.e. when
> > > my ego does not take ownership of facts and events and stories being
> > > built upon it have been abandoned. It is simply what it is without any
> > > (mental or intellectual) story or attribute being added to it.
> >
> > Wonderfully put............and spot on.
> >
> > Which also means that while there is always a preference.....
> >
> > ..... there is really no actual despising or rejection, or intolerance
> .....
> >
> > .....about or of anything.
> >
> > A lack of ego(or really self).........cannot see a ego or self in anybody
> > else or in anything else.
> >
> >
> >
> > > What about you?
> >
> > > Kali
>

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