Simply playing the game like a philosopher or a writer If the words lack depth then the game needs improvement
Unless the perceiver lacks understanding Ultimately as a writer that too would be my responsibility Only... I am not here! On 22 March 2011 15:33, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Reality is "something which never changes". > If you dont agree with Nisargadatta or all the great sages, don't come up > with your own definitions or common dictionary definitions. > A dictionary is not a standard for anything in a spiritual forum. > We are not talking about the meaning of the "word" here. > We are talking about the eternal state. > If you don't mean the eternal state and want to go by dictionary > definition, you are welcome to do so. > But you are just being superficial. You lack depth. And your are just > playing the game like a lawyer. > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> On 22 March 2011 14:45, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> *You think I will ask for the definition for "reality" from a linguist >>> who is merely interested in word play ?* >> >> >> No, you should get it from a dictionary LOL >> >> >>> *I get my definition from a much greater person who has depth and >>> seriousness. * >>> *What is real comes before the dictionary was written, even before words >>> were formed, even before "I am" or birth. * >> >> >> Yes, but the language which allows us to convey reality to one another >> needs definition and agreement about that definition otherwise I may as well >> say >> >> kdjfisvinbsdvihdvoihsdvohsdvohhd >> >> Not that it ultimately makes a difference, just the shared ones arise >> along with certain sensations like love and empathy. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> real 1 |ˈrē(ə)l| >>>> >>>> adjective >>>> >>>> *1 *actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or >>>> supposed *: Julius Caesar was a real person | a story drawing on real >>>> events | her many illnesses, real and imaginary.* >>>> >>>> • used to emphasize the significance or seriousness of a situation or >>>> circumstance *: there is a real danger of civil war | the competitive >>>> threat from overseas is very real.* >>>> >>>> • Philosophy relating to something as it is, not merely as it may be >>>> described or distinguished. >>>> >>>> *2 *(of a substance or thing) not imitation or artificial; genuine *: >>>> the earring was presumably real gold.* >>>> >>>> • true or actual *: his real name is James | this isn't my real reason >>>> for coming.* >>>> >>>> • [ attrib. ] (of a person or thing) rightly so called; proper *: he's >>>> my idea of a real man | Jamie is my only real friend.* >>>> >>>> *3 *[ attrib. ] informal complete; utter (used for emphasis) *: the >>>> tour turned out to be a real disaster.* >>>> >>>> *4 *[ attrib. ] adjusted for changes in the value of money; assessed by >>>> purchasing power *: real incomes had fallen by 30 percent | an increase >>>> **in real terms **of 11.6 percent.* >>>> >>>> *5 *Mathematics (of a number or quantity) having no imaginary part. See >>>> *imaginary *. >>>> >>>> *6 *Optics (of an image) of a kind in which the light that forms it >>>> actually passes through it; not virtual. >>>> >>>> adverb [as submodifier ] informal >>>> >>>> really; very *: my head hurts real bad.* >>>> >>>> On 22 March 2011 12:31, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *The definition of real is "something which never changes". >>>>> Since the manifestation always changes, I would call the unmanifested >>>>> as real. >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:20 AM, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> roomsearching wrote: >>>>>> > What you people are calling as real is just the manifest world. >>>>>> >>>>>> is it not real enough for you? >>>>>> >>>>> *No, I refuse to call it as reality. * >>>>> *Name and form are only recognized by a brain made of matter - which >>>>> again rots in a 100 years. * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> > Manifestation is observed by the manifest "I am". >>>>>> >>>>>> agreed >>>>>> >>>>>> > But the Absolute which supports the "I am" is unmanifested. The ego >>>>>> itself >>>>>> > is a manifestation and your egos think that the illusion is real. >>>>>> > Manifestation = illusion = unreal. >>>>>> >>>>>> is it not real enough for you? >>>>> >>>>> *If name and form don't last, and all these arise only from the >>>>> Absolute, why do you call it real ? >>>>> Isnt the source real instead of the illusions created from the source ? >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
