Wow - fascinating side track - thank you...

I can't help thinking so much is lost in translation and listening

I am arrogant, antagonistic, reaction provoking and pushing buttons in minds 
here gives me a platform to form beliefs

Without your disagreement there would be no duality

Without duality there would be no possibility of non-duality

Thank you for being

Onwards!

"no thing" in zen - it's really simple and can be understood when you take away 
all the mystical voodoo

"non-duality" - also simple - who am I if I am not body and mind?

it does not mean objects have no physicality - that's a red herring

it means look - into your experience look - are you really a you? then what are 
you?

the distinction you and the physical you are not separate yet the distinction 
is not an object - no thing - yet they are one - so your very nature is nothing 
and everything - not dual

both systems point to letting go of beliefs - letting go of subject object 
relationships

consciousness is not an object but language can be used to find it provided 
writer has conveyed instructions to reader such that communication took place

one word taken out of context - BAM - people start a new religion based on what 
is misunderstood and the point is missed

One letter is all it takes

Usually an S ;-)

So "brothers, sisters, I'll take you to the promised land" or where the promise 
lands?

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On 19 Apr 2011, at 10:05, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:

> .
> 
> “Incidentally one of these events occurred in Israel.”
> 
> Sorry to side track this slightly but what is really going on with
> Israel ?
> 
> Is = Isis,     Ra = Ra,     El = El,
> 
> The Promised Land.  ??
> The Promised condition.  ??
> The Promised circumstance. ??
> 
> Israel was never a place. It was a human condition.  A condition that
> we could make manifest inside ourselves.  When the slave freed himself
> from Babylon he could find his true self and then become one with the
> circumstance of now.   The slave could realise freedom inside
> himself.
> This was and is the true  Is,ra,el   to reconnect  with the unity of
> the whole.
> 
> Israel was supposed to be God’s gift of peace.  How can there be a
> long standing war over one small town.    Which historically was man’s
> God given sanctuary for peace.
> 
> I just don’t get it.  Have we learned anything in the last two
> thousand years ??
> 
> Is =
> Isis or in original more likely Aset (Ancient Greek: Ἶσις) was a
> goddess in Ancient Egyptian religious beliefs, whose worship spread
> throughout the Greco-Roman world. She was worshiped as the ideal
> mother and wife as well as the matron of nature and magic. She was the
> friend of slaves, sinners, artisans, and the downtrodden, and she
> listened to the prayers of the wealthy, maidens, aristocrats, and
> rulers.[1] Isis is the goddess of motherhood, magic and fertility.
> 
> Ra =
> Ra (alternatively spelled Ré), Egyptian *ri:ʕu, is the ancient
> Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty he had become a major deity in
> ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun.
> The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought that if not a
> word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to words meaning
> 'creative power' and 'creator'.[1]
> 
> El =
> The word El was found at the top of a list of gods as the Ancient of
> gods or the Father of all gods, in the ruins of the royal archive of
> the Ebla civilization, in the archaeological site of Tell Mardikh in
> Syria dated to 2300 BC. He may have been a desert god at some point,
> as the myths say that he had two wives and built a sanctuary with them
> and his new children in the desert. El had fathered many gods, but
> most important were Hadad, Yam, and Mot.
> 
> 
> "For they shall know the truth and it shall set them free"
> 
> 
> .

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