Okay - enough enough! Everyone just let it go. Even Jon is ignoring it and
just trying to learn what he can (umm about SQL, not about our friendly
little community)

julie 

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From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Tomiczek
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL Server

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics. 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baudouin, 
> Andrew
> Sent: Montag, 26. Juli 2004 17:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL 
> Server
> 
> > See, it does not say "Lead developer" Or something. So I assume you 
> > are
> >>>  > simply not responsible for handling personell. Which makes it 
> >>> clear
> why you > would not revmove someone without appropriate knoelsedsge 
> from a position >> he holds but lacks the knowledge to fullfill.
> 
> If I were in charge of you I would remove YOU from YOUR position 
> because you have no skills at dealing with people.
> To address your question, here in America, in development positions, a 
> lot of times we hire people based on their PEOPLE SKILLS, 
> intelligence, potential, drive, and ability to learn rather than their 
> having 100% knowledge of a programming subject.

Ah, THIS is finally the reason your jobs go to india, right?

If I have to deal with incompetent friendly people, cI can also fire the
american and move to where I get CHEAP incompetent friendly people?

(no insult meant to the indian developers here - my personal experiences
with outsourcing into this direction have been more than bad in all three
failed attempts. I got the most interesting interpretations of
specifications back that I had ever seen, mostly due to a lack of proper
english skills).

> > But then, the US IS the terrorist state nr 1 in the world,
> so this is
> expected behavior, sort of.
> 
> I'm not even going to dignify this ridiculous comment with a response.

The nice think is that you do not have to dignify this. This is a fact.

The US, according to it's own criteria, is a terrorist state. Nd I mean this
list that president bush has published once.

Thomas

> 
> 
> Andrew Baudouin
> Applications Programmer
> Information Technology Department
> AWC Inc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Tomiczek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL 
> Server
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baudouin, 
> > Andrew
> > Sent: Montag, 26. Juli 2004 17:16
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL 
> > Server
> >
> > Right,  he only called the original guy an idiot and told
> him to read
> > "SQL 101", and told another guy that if he was
> 
> Liar. I did NOT call the original guy an idiot. I did tell him to read 
> SQL 101, but I did NOT call him an idiot.
> 
> > responsible he would have removed him from his position. 
> > There's no arrogance or insults there.....
> 
> No. There is no insult in this. And no arrogance. I WOULD have removed 
> him from any position where is is responsible for SQL. I normally do 
> not leave people on such positions which make trainee mistakes. This 
> is not arrogance.
> This is fact. If you can not stand the facts, then - well - there are 
> other worlds, you know.
> 
> Maybe there is an insult in this for an american.
> 
> If you behave incompetent, then being called incompetent is not an 
> insult.
> 
> Besides, maybe, for an american - seems this culture honours an idiot 
> who is nice higher than someone being right but saying that the other 
> dude is an idiot.
> 
> But then, the US IS the terrorist state nr 1 in the world, so this is 
> expected behavior, sort of.
> 
> > Andrew Baudouin
> > Applications Programmer
> 
> See, it does not say "Lead developer" Or something. So I assume you 
> are simply not responsible for handling personell.
> Which makes it clear why you would not revmove someone without 
> appropriate knoelsedsge from a position he holds but lacks the 
> knowledge to fullfill.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> > Information Technology Department
> > AWC Inc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Heath Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:12 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL 
> > Server
> >
> >
> >  Cīmon guys,
> >
> > give Thomas a break. Let it rest, please!
> >
> > All that are subscribed for long time to those DEV lists, know how 
> > Thomas can response.
> > Most of us will read arrogance or insults, but Thomas doesnt mean 
> > this, too many threads have been spoiled on this...
> >
> > Read the information skip the arrogance or insults (if that is what 
> > you are reading :) )
> >
> > my 2 euro cents
> >
> > // Ryan
> >
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