> Don't forget you can also put complicated and important
> tables in memory
> on middle tiers this allows you to scale to many users and
> makes the DB
> performance irrelevant.   These middle tiers also allows your
> OO design
> to capture business logic that requires sorting , joins , groupings ,
> exclusions  etc and allows you to have much simpler SQL .  ( ie just
> simple selects and updates).  In this case your SQL grammar
> is so simple
> it will be DB independent.

Sure, but you could do all of this without O/R mapping frameworks. My
question was really meant to target discussion about the possible downsides
of O/R mappers. :)

-Brock

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