Then Oracle is wrong. :-)

Ted Neward
Author, Presenter, Consultant
Java, .NET, XML services
http://blogs.tedneward.com

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Franklin Gray
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Primary Key Bug
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> Oracle allows it in it's primary key.
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> While I understand the original poster's complaint, I have to side with
> Christopher on this one.  I don't have other RDBMSs around to test, but I
> would guess the behavior is the same.  I tested SQL Server with char(10)
> and
> varchar(10) with the same result...they don't think spaces in PK's are
> significant, so I think that the DataTable's implementation is probably
> better suited to deal with PK's that wouldn't violate PKs at the database.
> That's where most DataSet data actually resides, right?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Wildermuth
> http://adoguy.com
> C# MVP, MCSD.NET, Author and Speaker
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Reed
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Primary Key Bug
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> >From a data perspective, what makes it different?  It adds nothing to
> your
> data.  For a primary key, the first four characters are equivalent.  The
> space is irrelevant from a data perspective.  The space adds nothing to
> your
> data.  Thus, the two values are equivalent with respect to the primary
> key.
>
> I experimented in SQL Server with a table that has a column called
> KeyField
> that's a Char(10) and set as the primary key.  In the first row, I entered
> "key1" while in the second row I tried to enter "key1 ".  I received a
> duplicate key error.  So, if this is a bug, then it's in SQL Server as
> well.
>
> As a data purist, one should never have any form of ambiguity with respect
> to your primary key.  The values should be clearly distinct.  Then again,
> primary key values should never be controlled externally to begin with,
> but
> that's a whole other esoteric discussion for academia.
>
> Christopher Reed
> Web Applications Supervisor
> Information Technology
> City of Lubbock
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:17:37 am 10/25/2005 >>>
> No....that's just another BS excuse.  If XML doesn't recognize them as
> different then XML is wrong too.  The data is different and no software
> tool
> should ever been making assumptions about the data.  IT IS A
> BUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Message from Christopher Reed
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> 09:51 AM
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> 10/25/2005 09:51 AM
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> Christopher Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
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> Let's look at this from another perspective.
>
> <?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes"?>
> <NewDataSet>
>   <Table1>
>     <Key>key1</Key>
>   </Table1>
>   <Table1>
>     <Key>key1 </Key>
>   </Table1>
> </NewDataSet>
>
> The above is the XML representation of your datatable (in a dataset).
> The point is that if you tried to make the Key element unique in the above
> XML, it would complain because the spacing is not relevant to an XML
> document.  Thus, you should always view data within ADO.NET as if it was
> represented by a XML file.  This is not a bug.  This is by design of XML.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Christopher Reed
> Web Applications Supervisor
> Information Technology
> City of Lubbock
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:00:33 pm 10/24/2005 >>>
> Anybody noticed that this code errors?  Is this fixed in 2.0?
>
> Module Module1
>
>     Sub Main()
>         Dim DT As New DataTable
>         DT.Columns.Add("Key", GetType(String))
>         DT.Rows.Add(New Object() {"key1"})
>         DT.Rows.Add(New Object() {"key1 "})
>         DT.PrimaryKey = New DataColumn() {DT.Columns("Key")}
>     End Sub
>
> End Module
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