Thanx Phil,

I checked the DLL Help database, and .Net Framework 2.0 wasn't listed,
but this at least explains why - cheers!

Dino 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilson, Phil D
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:59
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL computer
memory (RAM and virtual)

The story on psapi is that it wasn't installed by default on NT4
systems, so it was in the 1.x frameworks because the 1.x frameworks were
supported on NT4.  The 2.0 framework installs on systems where psapi.dll
is part of the kernel (it's a Windows Protected File), and psapi.dll is
not in the 2.0 framework redist because it doesn't need to be. 

But psapi.dll will be there on the system anyway, so EmptyWorkingSet and
SetProcessWorkingSetSize will both work. 

Phil Wilson 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Cleaver
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL computer
memory (RAM and virtual)

George,

Given that PSAPI is part of the .Net Framework 1.0, 1.1 and I presume
2.0 as well, and this is a .Net list, then your argument is totally
invalid.

I stand by my original post... That EmptyWorkingSet is indeed a correct
and valid way of doing this.

Dino 

-----Original Message-----
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memory (RAM and virtual)

SetProcessWorkingSetSize lives in kernel32.dll, a core Windows DLL.
EmptyWorkingSet comes from psapi.dll, which is not present by default on
older versions of Windows.

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Dean Cleaver wrote:
> Phil has "one way" of doing it. EmptyWorkingSet actually only requires

> a process handle, and automatically passes in -1 one for the next 2 
> parameters for you.
>
> But if you really feel the need to pass the extra -1's then yes - 
> SetWorkingProcessSize is the better option for you.
>
> Dino
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George V.
> Reilly
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:44
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>
> Phil has the right of it. SetProcessWorkingSetSize(hProcess,
> (SIZE_T)-1,
> (SIZE_T)-1) is a moderately well-known trick for making desktop apps 
> be better citizens.
>
> --
> /George V. Reilly  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
> Wilson, Phil D wrote:
>
>> I always thought it was  SetProcessWorkingsetSize (process handle, 
>> -1,
>> -1) ...... Same effect I'm thinking.
>>
>> Phil Wilson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean 
>> Cleaver
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:40 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
>> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>>
>> It's a very old Windows trick. Basically, all it's doing is calling 
>> "EmptyWorkingSet" on minimise - you can call those APIs yourself if 
>> you want to. I do in my projects, especially the ones that work on 
>> Terminal Services.
>>
>> [DllImport("psapi.dll", SetLastError=true)] private static extern int

>> EmptyWorkingSet(IntPtr Process);
>>
>> Dino
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Georg 
>> Jansen
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2006 08:35
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
>> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>>
>> The same happens with Excel, maybe some new coding standard in 
>> Redmond...?
>> btw: The wm size is not reduced much.
>>
>> Regards
>> Georg
>> www.l4ndash.com - Log4Net Dashboard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince P
>> Sent: 24. januar 2006 20:18
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
>> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>>
>> I can't stop minimizing and restoring.  It's crazy.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia 
>>> Lerman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:21 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
>>> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>>>
>>> Hey, what an insane but great trick. I was watching my own devenv 
>>> hang
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> out at about 279,000 k and it just went down to 27K after
minimizing.
>>>
>>> I'm still biting my tongue over the "just change everything to C#"
>>> "solution"....
>>>
>>> julie lerman
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince P
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:51 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
>>> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>>>
>>> That's a good trick.. I just did that and my memory consumption went

>>> from 189MB of RAM to 17MB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter 
>>>> Ritchie
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:56 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Visual Studio 2005 consumes ALL 
>>>> computer memory (RAM and virtual)
>>>>
>>>> Try minimizing Visual Studio then restoring to see if the
>>>>
>>>>
>>> memory usage
>>>
>>>
>>>> goes now noticably when you find its memory usage to be high.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:32:46 +0100,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_Pe=BBko?=
>>>
>>>
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a quite big probelm with Visual Studio 2005. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> program in Visual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Basic and VS consumes all my memory, both RAM and virtual.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> I monitor
>>>
>>>
>>>>> devenv.exe process in Task Manager. When I start VS and load
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> a solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> (it's not so big), it occupies aproximatly 130 MB of RAM and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the same
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> amount of virtual memory. As I work, both of them goes up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> And I do
>>>
>>>
>>>>> just simple things .. say I have 4 tabs with source code
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> opened and I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> edit one of them. Occupied memory raises and very soon (up
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> to 1 hour)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the devenv.exe process has all RAM memory (I have 512 MB in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> system and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the process takes cca 350 MB) and even all virtual memory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> (about 1 GB).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have to turn VS on and off, because otherwise it crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> :-( I don't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> need to say you that work is very slow and restarting VS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> is annoying.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> At home I have the same problem with Visual Basic 2005 Express.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did anybody encounter this problem? Thanks a lot for any response.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some technical info:
>>>>>
>>>>> Visual Studio: VS 2005 Professional Edition, Version 8.0.50727.42
>>>>> Framework: 2.0.50727
>>>>> Language: Visual Basic
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardware: AMD Sempron 2800+ (2 GHz), 512 MB RAM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stano
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Well. I know, 512 MB of RAM is not too much fo VS and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> very soon I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> will get 1 GB, but I don't thing that it will solve my problem.
>>>>>
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