For intelligent consumption of the data, a string would be a disaster - it would require a whole bunch of code inside the orchestration to parse a dataset. DataSets and BizTalk don't really mix. BizTalk can handle messages of any type but the toolset lends itself to processing of XML messages defined via an XSD schema.
The question you should ask yourself is what data does the orchestration require. This you should model as a schema. The schema editor for BizTalk allows you to model the data without deep knowledge of schema syntax (it generates the schema syntax for you). Once you have modelled your data the question then is how does the orchestration get the data. Here you have as many options as there are adapters. Yes MSMQ is one way, although do you truly need queuing semantics or can BizTalk take care of that decoupling? WebServices will allow you to generate the XML message without you having to explicitly create the message using the XML API - this may or may not be an advantage in your situation (I obviously have no visibility as to your actual requirements). Feel free to send me questions off list on BizTalk stuff (I teach the BizTalk curriculum at DM) or you can of course attend a refresher course :-) Regards Richard Blewett -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stefan Sent: 26 September 2006 16:48 To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... For MSMQ the are adapters (http://www.microsoft.com/biztalk/evaluation/adapter/default.mspx), the Dataset can be sent as a string IMHO, I believe you should refresh your BizTalk skills a bit before starting to fiddle with your sistem. -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:42 PM To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... It doesn't just expose them as web services....the web service integration seem pretty much point and click, I have an existing system that communicates using serialised datasets and MSMQ....I don't really know what I'm doing in biztalk, I have to define the format that the data arrives in, so I can define an orchestration to act on the data.....my question is about how to define the 'schema'....or whether what I'm doing makes sense at all.....so it's probably pretty much out of scope for this group. -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stefan Sent: 26 September 2006 16:31 To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... BizTalk is partially made of .NET and exposes workflows as .NET Web Services on IIS. Simple as that. -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:27 PM To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... Thanks....I will give it a go....it is about integration with dotnet....but I don't think this forum is the correct forum for it. -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stefan Sent: 26 September 2006 16:18 To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/server/biztalk.mspx -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:54 PM To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... My point is.....is there a developmentor forum for Biztalk (as they do courses in it, I would have thought there may be)? If not are there any other forums people could recommend for help with biztalk? -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kamen Lilov Sent: 26 September 2006 15:45 To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... And your point is... ?? -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:20 PM To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Biztalk..... ahhhh....you know how it is...you go on a XXX course (with developmentor of course), you come back, and two years later you decide you want to use your old found experience....you open the app...which is now a new version, do a few of the standard examples....then try to do what you actually want to do and of course get absolutely nowhere, so you think, 'I know I'll just post a message to the helpful developmentor forum'.....but where is it?....is there a developmentor forum?....I can't find it. =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor- http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(r) http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. 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