Actually it is saying a type mismatch, but without the schema who knows what belongs there.
John Warner > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Sills > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:19 PM > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > connect to the remote server" exception > > That would be on the client side. From the log of the XML you post to the > server: > > <meter-status>?</meter-status>[\r][\n]" > > Perhaps "?" is not a valid value for <meter-status>, which is what the error > message seems to indicate. > > Adam.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Eddie Lascu > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:16 PM > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > connect to > the remote server" exception > > Hi Adam, > > That would be on the server side, right? Unfortunately I do not have any > control of the server side and I am told that everything is "perfect" there. > Unless I can prove them otherwise, I have to continue trying to access it. > > Thanks, > Eddie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Adam Sills > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:10 PM > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > connect > to the remote server" exception > > > Have you thought perhaps that your meter-status element has an invalid value > put in it? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Eddie Lascu > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:01 PM > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > connect to > the remote server" exception > > Hi John, > > I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Basically, at this time, I > am working on two fronts in parallel. One is to try to use the soapUI and > get a response back. That will prove that the web service is running and > there is no error returned by it when I invoke one of its web methods. The > second front I trying to make progress is to do the same thing from my > Visual Studio project. In both cases I am using a wireless connection to the > Internet that bypasses the proxy server, so this should not be an issue. > > With soapUI I am somehow more advanced in that I have introduced the user > name and the password for the request. The response that I get back seems to > be generated by the server. If you are curios, here is the output of the > HTTP log window in soapUI: > > > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "POST / HTTP/1.1[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "Content-Type: > text/xml;charset=UTF-8[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "SOAPAction: ""[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "User-Agent: Jakarta > Commons-HttpClient/3.0.1[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "Host: > dap3.dot.ca.gov:18080[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "Content-Length: 934[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "<soapenv:Envelope > xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"; > xmlns:atie="http://www.ATIE-00-00-01";>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " <soapenv:Header/>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " <soapenv:Body>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <atie:rMSResponseData>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " <rmsMessage>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " <rmsStatus>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <device-id>?</device-id>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <meter-status>?</meter-status>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <last-update>?</last-update>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " </rmsStatus>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <assocLDSid>?</assocLDSid>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <organization-owning>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <organization-id>?</organization-id>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <organization-name>?</organization-name>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > </organization-owning>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " <rms-location>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <latitude>?</latitude>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <longitude>?</longitude>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " </rms-location>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <station-status>?</station-status>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > <meter-rate>?</meter-rate>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " </rmsMessage>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " > </atie:rMSResponseData>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> " </soapenv:Body>[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:>> "</soapenv:Envelope>" > > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server > Error[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "Server: gSOAP/2.7[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "Content-Type: text/xml; > charset=utf-8[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "Content-Length: 762[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "Connection: close[\r][\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "<?xml version="1.0" > encoding="UTF-8"?>[\n]" > Mon Jul 14 17:52:52 EDT 2008:DEBUG:<< "<SOAP-ENV:Envelope > xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"; > xmlns:SOAP-ENC="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"; > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"; > xmlns:tmdd="http://www.TMDD-Partial-02-00-01"; > xmlns:ATMS="http://center-services/atieSoapHttpServiceBinding"; > xmlns:ATIE="http://www.ATIE-00-00-01"; > xmlns:ClientDummy="http://center- > services/clientSoapHttpServiceBinding"><SOA > P-ENV:Header></SOAP-ENV:Header><SOAP-ENV:Body><SOAP- > ENV:Fault><faultcode>SOA > P-ENV:Client</faultcode><faultstring>Validation constraint violation: data > type mismatch in element > <meter-status></faultstring></SOAP-ENV:Fault></SOAP- > ENV:Body></SOAP-EN > V:Envelope>" > > The server generates an internal error and closes the connection. The fault > string that comes back is misleading, since it says something about a > validation constraint violation. I think it's a problem with the server > closing the connection right after receiving the request. > > Any suggestions? > > Regards, > Eddie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John > Warner > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:46 PM > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > connect > to the remote server" exception > Importance: Low > > > Have you actually just seen if the wsdl tool will connect, you can do > everything but write the file and see what return set you get from the > remote site. Your proxy may still not be right. > > John Warner > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Eddie Lascu > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:49 PM > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable > > to connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > I followed your suggestion and built the SOAP client using > > the wsdl.exe tool. I specified the user name and the password > > among the parameters, but I don't see them in the code of the > > class that was created, unlike say the access point. Needless > > to say, the result is identical: "Connection was unexpectedly > > closed by the server". Do I need to add something other > > resource to the project? I checked the results of the wsdl > > command and there is only one ".cs" file that got created. Am > > I missing something? > > > > Thanks, > > Eddie > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > John Warner > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:59 AM > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable > > to connect to the remote server" exception > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Open a command window and run wsdl from there and you will > > see a list of all the options. I'm thinking with the user ID > > you have and password that this tool can do the job you need. > > I'm blocked in experimenting of course as I do not have the > > credentials that you have been supplied with. > > > > John Warner > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eddie Lascu > > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:14 AM > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > So you mean when adding the Web Reference to the project? > > That's when > > the > > > proxy client is created based on the WSDL. I do not recollect a step > > where I > > > would have to enter the user name and the password. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > John Warner > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:20 PM > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > > > connect > > > to the remote server" exception > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > > > > This will happen when wsdl creates a proxy for you, some of the > > > options include setting uids and pwds. > > > > > > John Warner > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eddie Lascu > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:38 PM > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > > > Incidentally, do you know what is the equivalent in .NET > > of setting > > the > > > user > > > > name and the password among the properties of the request? My web > > > service > > > > class is inherited from SoapHttpClientProtocol and I don't see it > > having > > > a > > > > request method or property that would allow me to set these two > > > parameters. > > > > The only thing that remotely looks like that is the Credentials > > property > > > of > > > > the SoapHttpClientProtocol class. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > Eddie Lascu > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:33 PM > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > > > > connect > > > > to the remote server" exception > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > It's a long story. The guy who developed the ws is no > > longer under > > > > the payroll of the client and because of that I am not allowed to > > > > contact > > > him > > > > (they are afraid that the developer will start billing the time > > > > spent > > > with > > > > me). On the other hand, the client doesn't have any other > > technical > > > person > > > > to look after the web service and they claim that > > everything is up > > > > and running from their perspective. Now it's my job to > > piece things > > together > > > > without much assistance from the other end. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I made some progress. Not being too familiar with > > the soapUI > > > tool (I > > > > just installed it today) I didn't notice that fact that I can set > > > > the > > > user > > > > name and the password among the request properties. Once > > I have done > > > that, > > > > the response was no longer missing. Now I get this response: > > > > > > > > <SOAP-ENV:Body> > > > > <SOAP-ENV:Fault> > > > > <faultcode>SOAP-ENV:Client</faultcode> > > > > <faultstring>Validation constraint violation: data type > > > mismatch > > > > in element <dms-sign-type></faultstring> > > > > </SOAP-ENV:Fault> > > > > </SOAP-ENV:Body> > > > > > > > > I wonder whether this is generated by the server (for > > Cristian - you > > > were > > > > right, the web service was developed in Java and is hosted by a > > > gSOAP/2.7 > > > > server) or there is something wrong with my request. > > > > > > > > I'll dig some more. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > > John > > > > Warner > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:05 PM > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable to > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > > > > > > > What do the people on the other side of this have to say? > > > > > > > > John Warner > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eddie Lascu > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:05 PM > > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable > to > > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > I already installed the soapUI 2.0.2 tool. When I use > > it to invoke > > the > > > > web > > > > > method I get no response. I am not prompted to enter > > the user name > > and > > > > > password. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion, > > > > > Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of > > > > John > > > > > Warner > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:39 PM > > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates "Unable > to > > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a look at this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.msdn.microsoft.com/en/asmxandxml/thread/5c70e2a2 > > -9f1b-4338- > > > > > b > > > > > 96b-c32403744d2a/ > > > > > > > > > > John Warner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cristian Sturek > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:30 PM > > > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates > > "Unable to > > > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > > > > > > > Eddie, > > > > > > > > > > > > On (1), you are absolutely correct. The reason why you can > > > > > > "see" > > > > > anything > > > > > > while browsing with IE when hitting any of my Web Services is > > > because > > > > of > > > > > how > > > > > > IIS "interprets" ASMX files out of the box. Apache > > and the rest > > are > > > > not > > > > > > that friendly. The response you're getting back, however, is > > > correct > > > > - > > > > > if > > > > > > that address is an Access Point (which, BTW, it can > > definitely > > > > > > be, > > > all > > > > I > > > > > > need to do is setup a Web Service under root and make the > > > > > > default > > > page > > > > > the > > > > > > ASMX file), then GETs are not supported, it's > > expecting a POST. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I can't help out much on (2). It's been a > > while since I > > > wrote > > > > > code. > > > > > > Can you find out more about the Web Service? Just my $0.02, > > > > > > it's > > > > > probably > > > > > > an Access Point created automatically by an ESB. Perhaps the > > > > > credentials > > > > > > are expected as SOAP Headers, but then the error > > message would > > > > > > be different. When you browsed with IE, did it prompt you for > > > > > > credentials? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cristian Sturek > > > > > > Principal SOA Architect > > > > > > http://www.xwebservices.com > > > > > > http://www.soahub.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > > Of > > > > > > Eddie Lascu > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:18 AM > > > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates > > "Unable to > > > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > > > > > > > Cristian, Joel et al, > > > > > > > > > > > > I made some progress in that I have tried a few things: > > > > > > > > > > > > - I switched on to the wireless network that bypasses the > > > > > > firewall > > > and > > > > > now I > > > > > > don't get the "Unable to connect to the remote server" error. > > > Instead > > > > I > > > > > get > > > > > > a new one that says: "The underlying connection was > > closed: The > > > > > connection > > > > > > was closed unexpectedly."; > > > > > > > > > > > > - If I point my IE browser to the > > > > > > "http://dap3.dot.ca.gov:18080/"; > > > URL > > > > I > > > > > get > > > > > > some kind of SOAP response that indicates a SOAP-ENV:Client > > > > > > fault > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > error string being "HTTP GET method not implemented" > > (BTW, could > > > this > > > > be > > > > > a > > > > > > valid access point for a web service?); > > > > > > > > > > > > This raises two issues: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The IE browser may not be the best tool to look at the web > > > service; > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. My VS2005 connection is closed because I do not provide the > > user > > > > > > name/password I was given. I tried to write something > > like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > CredentialCache myCache = new CredentialCache(); > > > > > > myCache.Add(new Uri("http://dap3.dot.ca.gov/";), > > "Basic", new > > > > > > NetworkCredential("myusername", "mypassword")); > > > > > > objMyWebService.Credentials = myCache; > > > > > > > > > > > > That didn't make any difference. Can you guys comment on my > > > approach? > > > > > Do > > > > > > you > > > > > > suspect that this is the problem? > > > > > > Obviously, there are some security features > > implemented in this > > web > > > > > service > > > > > > and I don't think I get them right in my code. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your help will be highly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of > > > > > Joel > > > > > > Paula > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:25 AM > > > > > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Web Service generates > > "Unable to > > > > > > connect to the remote server" exception > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eddie, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes the URL in the WSDL for the webservice is > > not the real > > > one, > > > > > for > > > > > > security (?!) reasons. You can check it on your app.config or > > > directly > > > > > in > > > > > > code, accessing its Url property. You can change it > > using any of > > the > > > > two > > > > > > methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > JP > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > =================================== > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > =================================== > > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > =================================== > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > =================================== > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
