Hi Bobby,

I guess the app blocks will be a valuable resource. I'll be refactoring an
existing app next week just to play with various exception handling
approaches, to see which one produces cleaner and more maintainable results.
If I can find the time to do it, I'll post in my blog.

Cheers

Seref

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Bobby Heid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Seref,
>
> One thing that I failed to mention is that many times, our web services may
> be called from more than one app.  And different apps need to handle errors
> in possibly different ways.
>
> If you have a layer or layers that will be used by one program, then it may
> make sense to handle more of the errors in the one of the layers.  I guess
> it also depends on if the calling/front-end program consists of a GUI or is
> just some sort of console app.
>
> In the end, I guess it just depends.  LOL.
>
> Also, I do use the data application block, validation block, and some of
> the
> other blocks from the Enterprise Library.  It's good stuff.
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seref Arikan
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:34 PM
> To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Exception handling in multitier applications
>
> Hi Bobby,
> I guess letting the layers to bubble the error up is a less complex way
> than
> handling them at the layer they originated. When you start handling them in
> various layers, you find yourself in a position where you have to code for
> different combinations of errors in various layers. I bubbling up as much
> as
> possible is an option, though it might push a little bit more code to front
> ends. Thanks for your response
>
> Cheers
> Seref
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:32 AM, Bobby Heid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Seref,
> >
> > I do not have any resources for you, but this is the way we handle it at
> > work.
> >
> > For a given app, we may have the application, service agent (used to call
> > into the web service), one or more web services, and usually one data
> layer
> > to go with each web service that needs one.
> >
> > We let the data layer exceptions bubble up to the web service layer,
> where
> > we log the error and any other information that we want and then re-throw
> > the error.  The service agent layer simply bubbles up the exception.
> > Finally the application itself traps the error and handles it the way it
> > sees fit.
> >
> > There are times where in some of the layers, we may trap certain errors
> > that
> > can be handled in a logical way, but in general we do as above.  We try
> to
> > create reusable web service/data layers so that multiple apps can use
> them.
> >
> > Bobby
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seref Arikan
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:41 AM
> > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> > Subject: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Exception handling in multitier applications
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'd like to get your opinions, and if possible pointers to resources for
> > exception handling in multitier .net applications. When you have a usual
> > multitier app, you usually have a db access layer like a generated ORM
> > classes, web services exposing them, and clients (web and desktop) that
> > consume these services.
> > At the moment I have a few apps that I'm maintaining, and some web pages
> > and
> > windows forms are constructed by calls to various web services, and later
> > combining their outputs. However, there are a lot things that can go
> wrong,
> > like a syntactically correct input being rejected by a back end service,
> > which requires adjustments in the user interface like disabling  various
> > parts of the screen etc.
> > I've come to realize that error handling code scattered around layers is
> > the
> > most ugly part of all software that I write.
> > We have a lot of best practices and design options but resources about
> them
> > seem to cover mostly the cases where things go as expected. A consistent
> > approach to handling errors would be really nice, for what I have right
> now
> > is just results of my own experience, and I believe in learning from
> > other's
> > mistakes and best practices.
> > Do you have any resources that I can benefit from? Any error-handling
> > patterns? For example how and where do you log and report errors in a web
> > based app? I've realized that error handling aspects tend to cross cut
> > multiple layers sometimes, and writing code to cover these aspects leads
> to
> > high coupling between layers. After spending a great amount of effort for
> > low coupling, this is not nice!
> > I'd be more than happy to hear your thoughts and suggestions
> >
> > Regards
> > Seref
> >
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