On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 05:59:14 -0700
Andrew Fabbro <[email protected]> wrote:

> OpenBSD has supported UTF-8 since...2010ish?  A long time.

point taken. yes, it may have been that long... I may have to try it
out again and report back since i do need another virtual server for a
database anyways, as i have too much other "stuff" running on my present
server.

> ... Linux's lack of development of anything
> similar to pledge :-)  If you missed pledge, Theo has several talks
> on YouTube about it, e.g.:
> 
> 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7S1eqKsFk
> 
> 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJJbNRErVQ
> 
> What is your ultimate goal?  A secure system?  There are numerous
> security features that OpenBSD has that Linux doesn't have and
> refuses to add.  Does Linux have pledge?  

pledge is well and good, and definitely to be commended, but from my
understanding that is an internal security feature for a program to
secure itself, not to provide an extra layer of security on third-party
programs (ports) which the OpenBSD team does not necessarily have the
time to audit or the clout to effect upstream security patches,
especially for openbsd-specific improvements.

the selinux security policies 

> Random PIDs?

these are definitely an option in the Linux kernel, with or without
SELinux. i am not really sure why the distributions don't enable them by
default, but at the same time i am not sure of the importance of the
ability to guess a process' PID versus the permission of any user to
view a complete ps listing.

> OpenBSD has had native support for running as a VM host officially
> since 6.1 earlier this year: http://man.openbsd.org/vmm.4

that is very new then, awesome!

> BTW, you can actually run OpenBSD on any VM/VPS provider that offers
> KVM.  There's nothing special about Vultr other than that they
> streamline the install.  Nothing against them and they're a fine
> provider, but it's trivial to run OpenBSD on thousands of VM
> providers.  Typically you mount the ISO in the provider's Solus (or
> whatever) control panel, boot off it in the console, and then it's a
> standard bsd.rd install.
 
yes and I have. i just noticed and i thought it worth mentioning that
that particular provider now has a convenient preinstalled image for
OpenBSD, (whereas before i installed it just as you described.)

unfortunately, i am on a budget, so i bought a cheap laptop for <$200,
kicked windows 10 and office 365 off and installed fedora linux,
because openbsd does not support the hardware on it. however i
certainly can run openbsd as a vm guest on this laptop when i have the
time to experiment with it -- 4g memory and 4 cores amd64 -- otherwise
a rather basic barebones model, no bluetooth, no cdrom.

funny story, i bought the laptop at target downtown seattle, and as
soon as i got online with linux, i bought a cheap plane ticket to
anchorage leaving that evening, and i skipped town to get away from
that marijuana-dealing city attorney who was filing false criminal
charges against me

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/pot/2014/07/11/city-attorney-pete-holmes-apologizes-for-taking-pot-to-work/

having me falsely committed to the state insane asylum in steilacoom,
where they threw a chair at me clear from redmond, and so on and so
forth. people these days are just so amazingly complicit in organized
crime, in total denial of the holocaust-level white nationalist war
crimes taking place, while doing absolutely nothing to stop such crimes.

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