On May 14, 2020 3:24:32 PM AKDT, Theo de Raadt <[email protected]> wrote:
>Kyle Willett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source
>> news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux
>option
>> on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat
>> Enterprise Linux. I think it would be great if we could get some
>
>Who is "we"?
I (for one) am currently the proud owner of a Lenovo IdeaPad L340 with 4
dual-core processors on it.
>
>> hardware manufacturer to certify OpenBSD on a device and offer it
>> pre-installed as an OS choice. I think that would be a good thing
>for
>> the project. Maybe an AMD64 x86_64 laptop is too much at first and
>> maybe we should start with one of the arm or mips laptops supported
>
>Who is "we"?
>
>> well by OpenBSD. I don't know just a dream I have.
>
I am currently running Fedora 31 and I would strongly consider switching back
to OpenBSD, as I have used it in the past, if the proper hardware support were
in place.
>Why go around telling people your dreams? Why not do all this
>yourself?
>You don't need a mailing list for it. Is it your dream that others in
>the
>group "we" will do what you dream?
>
>What you are doing here is advocating that other people do that which
>you don't and won't do yourself. To be honest, it comes off small
>minded.
"We" are suffering from many of the same hardware problems you are, when you
can't get documentation from the manufacturers of hardware devices, __without
an NDA__, to write OpenBSD drivers for them.
* General bit rot: Rowhammer, hard drive crashes, etc.
* Proprietary patented intellectual property with "No user serviceable parts
inside."
* "This product contains a _____ known to the State of California to cause
cancer."
* "The NSA" with all the undocumented back doors for the cops in everything,
the USA crypto export regulations.
* The FBI warnings on the movies, the Mounties in Canada and the State
Troopers in the U.S., the copyrighted content, the child pornography, the
firearms, the weed, and all sorts of other information deemed illegal for us to
possess on our own computers.
* The "hack job" in the mainstream media: we're all "hackers" if we don't use
Microsoft® Windows® on an approved Intel® microprocessor as approved by the
corporate boss.
* The "evil maid" attack of some lady digging in a guy's computer with a
private investigator or a subpoena for an anti-harassment civil suit or a
restraining order or no-contact order or something like that.
* The drug dealers and the hit men on the "dark web", the Bitcoin miners and
the crypto currency mining bots.
* The constant double-dealing between "full" KVM virtualization and
Linux-kernel-only "paravirtualization" in the cloud.
* The SWAT teams with their doorbuster warrants for anybody who runs a
"server."
* No IPv6 support anywhere under the sun.
* ...
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