Drug-dealing never-Trumper gun-grabbing RINO politician with a misspelled 
domain name. And not even a most basic security check on the mailing list. SPF, 
DKIM, DMARC? Or are we hitting spamhausen lists with ham emails again? And 
what's this lawmaker's concern about OpenBSD pro or con? It isn't really 
relevant to any laws he wants to pass to fine us or imprison us not more that 
ten years whoever/he done the crime whatever the crime is defined to be that it 
isn't already in court.

On March 28, 2025 5:31:43 PM PDT, Dan Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>American here with a tip for non-Americans: any time you see one of us start 
>complaining about "woke" anything, feel free to ignore anything else they have 
>to say.
>
>On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 18:10, justina colmena ~biz 
><[[email protected]](mailto:On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 18:10, justina colmena 
>~biz <<a href=)> wrote:
>
>> Well, to be honest, we don't have the vanity license plates or a team of 
>> mounties standing guard in front of our houses while we program on OpenBSD 
>> drug-dealing software in the U.S., and U.S. contributions are generally 
>> unwelcome to the OpenBSD project anyways.
>>
>> What would J.D. Vance say? I do believe it's about time for Americans to get 
>> off the property of woke socialists and communists who are colluding and 
>> imposing other secret and hidden sanctions and refusing to let us use 
>> *their* software anyways. Berkeley, CA is part of the USA after all. I do 
>> think we need to re-conquer the BSD's from the Canadians and their 
>> cop-calling Karens.
>>
>> It's essentially Canada/EU-only nation-state-level intellectual property, 
>> and German hackers keep having us SWATTED by our own politically partisan 
>> local unionized beat cops on false reports from compromised police stations 
>> with fake and forged charging documents in court if we do any such 
>> programming work on any such software on our own property.
>>
>> On March 28, 2025 2:49:57 PM PDT, Ben Goren <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Um … might I suggest?
>>>
>>> This discussion has wandered quite far from anything related to OpenBSD. 
>>> While I’m sure there are many here sympathetic to your comments, this 
>>> really isn’t the appropriate venue for them.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> b&
>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 2025, at 1:54 PM, justina colmena ~biz <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Freemen on the land also advocate schemes to avoid taxes"
>>>>
>>>> Such as voting down the said taxes. Unless there is some other scheme in 
>>>> place to tax people against their collective will.
>>>>
>>>> "Je ne contracte pas" — so whatever it was I didn't agree to it. Somebody 
>>>> else's agreement. What about all those shrink wrap license agreements on 
>>>> commercial software offerings? After you've paid for them and can no 
>>>> longer get your money back by returning the item you paid for.
>>>>
>>>> “I stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Libertarianism when I realized 
>>>> it is but yet another neuroatypy.” — There's got to be a good reason for 
>>>> enacting and enforcing some kind of "law" other than just a bunch of petty 
>>>> rules to punish people just for the sake of punishing them.
>>>>
>>>> For example, a lot of people are too lazy to mow their own lawns, but then 
>>>> they go to court with service of process and summons to appear to force 
>>>> their neighbors to mow their lawns to their expectations. In which case I 
>>>> suppose a blade of grass a fraction of an inch too long that tickles your 
>>>> bare foot is a prime example of "neuroatypy" unless it's actually against 
>>>> the law to go barefoot on your own lawn in neighborhoods like that.
>>>>
>>>> On March 28, 2025 9:59:34 AM PDT, Sylvain Saboua <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I see ! You're from the “Common Law v Maritime Law,” “Free Man on the 
>>>>> Land” [1] bunch. I've enjoyed this conspiracy theory a lot, in France we 
>>>>> had the “je ne contracte pas” [2] stemming from it just last year. But 
>>>>> French law stems from Napoleonic Civil Code, i.e. continental law, which 
>>>>> is ; little to do with Common Law... Anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement
>>>>>
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxWnBY9qjby4Uw71PwEZ3EvFhlKiWRqkB9
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end, I believe this all stems from the misplaced free association 
>>>>> thought (or misplaced “right brain” more or less). As somebody else says, 
>>>>> “I stopped nurturing any interest in Ancap/Libertarianism when I realized 
>>>>> it is but yet another neuroatypy.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-03-28 14:58, justina colmena ~biz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The shrinks got too litigious, and "mental health" is practiced as a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> branch of "law" alongside "intellectual property" and other matters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that are either "imaginary" or "all in your head" ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are laws against "simulating legal process" over such imaginary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> matters etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://law.justia.com/codes/alaska/title-11/chapter-56/article-4/section-11-56-620/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but such laws are never enforced, because even without a Constitution
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the law itself can't be illegal in a court of law, and even if it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> were, the attorneys can't prosecute themselves or else they'd put
>>>>>>
>>>>>> themselves out of business for their own practices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "law" itself by definition being whatever "lawyers" keep
>>>>>>
>>>>>> themselves in business practicing and billing for. Unless you think
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can be successful in court as yet another crackpot mentally ill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "pro se" petitioner with a flat tire or another speeding ticket or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> traffic violation on the way to court you must answer, with paying off
>>>>>>
>>>>>> all your parking tickets and getting your vehicle released from city
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hall impound after court, but your own petitions are just going to be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> professionally dismissed for failure to appear at any one of those
>>>>>>
>>>>>> numerous perfunctory court hearings for filing a suit. Cops have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> grappling hooks and shoot-out axle nets to physically disable and stop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your vehicle on the road now. That's why the real pro lawyers always
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hail a cab or take Uber or Lyft to court because you can't even
>>>>>>
>>>>>> consider driving or parking your own vehicle in a hostile red-light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> district.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On March 28, 2025 2:48:29 AM PDT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-03-28 07:01, justina colmena ~biz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:51:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time izzy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meyer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Curious why you chose to invalidate this person's experience that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> made themselves vulnerable about. Sure- you have your views on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that's totally cool. But maybe try being a bit more forgiving of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> someone who, again, made themselves vulnerable next time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> People serve process with mental health allegations that sticks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> worse than a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> felony record in court for the rest of a person's life, and they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> want others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to be forgiving of them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh ! I think I get you. I had the impression that you were sympathetic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> antipsychiatry, especially given the related posts on your blog. I'm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> still
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not very sure but ... I've never been charged for anything criminal or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> against
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the law, you're making quite a broad generalization here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When talking about mental illness and the aforementioned soothing I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> get from
>>>>>>
>>>>>> obsd and suckless, I was alluding to the relative cognitive overload
>>>>>>
>>>>>> undeliberately enforced by other projects which seems mostly absent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from these
>>>>>>
>>>>>> two – as hinted at in the title of my page UNIX.html @saboua.xyz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mental health services, like those of astrologers or magicians,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> psychics,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tarot card readers, palmists, have gained far too much of a sheen of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> legitimacy (or color of law, as it were) in court for service of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> process and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> summons to appear -- Say does a person really have an organic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "mental illness"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of known etiology? Or is it simply a case of simulated legal process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> catch-all diagnosis to make a person appear "formally mad" in a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> court of law
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for some other legal summons?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's right. A lot of diagnoses are abusive, esp. when considering
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the prevalent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> traumatic liminal state that pervades among our relatives within
>>>>>>
>>>>>> society. But as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for me I attribute this to Big Pharma's lucrative motive, not legal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> summons which
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen cases of while at the ward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely no morality is inherent in the "law" just because it's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Precisely. Legal is not necessarily moral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvain Saboua

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