From: "David Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(beautiful and lyric rant Snipped)

> The complexity or simplicity of Perl is in the artist,
> not the pen, or the written word.

    I'm a lousy programmer, have been for 20 years.  It took working with
Perl to show me that I'm barely literate.  Improving now, finally, and part
of the reason is this:

> doesn't require you to spell your words in such extensive
> longhand that it takes three whole pages to comprehend
> a single thought.

    Learning C++ by reading code was pure endurance contest.  Sometimes I
couldn't even find the .h file where something was defined!  That was much
too crazy for me, so forget about learning something new.  Perl is a lot
more accessible.  I can actually *read* it.

    About Advocacy.....
use Win32::GUI;

    Aldo's gem is what we may be missing.  Take a look at
http://bangkokwizard.com/treeview.zip
Lousy code (full of experiments on how to fill a treeview) but has a neat
implimentation of Tom C.'s Flintstone hashes.  Windows specific, of course,
(be nice David :-) but it actually makes it *easy* to do a GUI with code
that is very very lightweight cause all you got there is a bunch of
operating system calls!  Tk is a bloated monster in comparison. (yes it does
more stuff)
    For any pioneers out there, here ya go.  Not much has been written for
it and a growing stream of newless cluebies coming in the door with only GUI
experience.

Rob
"Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not
the reason we are doing it" -- Richard Feynman




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