First, the advocacy bits.

As a reminder, here's Bob Doucette's question, which kicked this whole
discussion off:

>> I was wondering if anyone else has run into the kind of negative feedback
>> recently that I have seen following the news of a major rewrite of Perl.

And brian recommended this tidbit to address such negative feedback:

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:22:23PM -0400, brian d foy wrote:
> Also note that Jarkko, the Perl 5 maintenance pumpking, and ActiveState
> (separately) have publically committed to supporting Perl 5 indefinately
> (that is, no end date has been set, but they did not say "forever"). 

With a set of announcements about Perl6 coming soon (once Larry
makes his big thoughts known), it'll be time to reiterate that
Perl5 is stable, tested and not going anywhere for a while.  And
that Perl6 is being developed in an open source fishbowl process.


Now for the perl6 bits.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:22:23PM -0400, brian d foy wrote:
> A lot of people have been forwarding me various stuff from the advocacy
> list (which i already read) about client concerns with Perl 6.  Please
> note the Dick Hardt of ActiveState is the Customers Relations Manager for
> Perl 6 and can handle those relationships.

That's not my recollection.  Dick's role is to talk to the large
shops that aren't participating in the Perl6 effort and make sure
their concerns are heard.  That role is one of information gathering,
not one of spreading the marketing message to customers, or soothing
every PHB that has suddenly become allergic to Perl "because it needs a 
major rewrite".

>From July's meeting:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00008.html

Specifically:

[4] Dick Hardt's role for perl6 will be to talk to customers with a
    significant interest in Perl's stability and growth (e.g. Yahoo, 
    investment banks, etc.) and forward these concerns to the perl6 
    community.

Between that document and http://www.perl.org/perl6/, we lost a
person responsible to spread the message to the PHBs that Perl5
isn't going anywhere.  Especially in slow news months, when there's
no news or special events to report.

Solutions (if necessary) welcome at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Z.

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