On 27 Apr, 2008, at 15:43, Shlomi Fish wrote:

I agree that [email protected] can become a bit political, especially since
I've joined.

Perl is little but politics. The same social dysfunctions that existed at the announcement of the P6 fork that led me to say that it would never come to fruition still exist, much like, say, this entire thread.

Sorry again.

What are you sorry for? The lot of you got what you wanted in the end, so what? It is the perl way that no good deed go unpunished. Sorry is a little late and a bit meaningless at this point.

You are right that using a wiki for it may open up a wealth of problems. I've
witnessed such problems first-hand with some of my experiences on
en.wikipedia.org, he.wikipedia.org, perl.net.au, and other wikis.

An unmoderated wiki, or even a moderated one, in a perl context in largely doomed on something as subjective as the history.

You are right, I will. I should note that because of the conversion to XHTML 1.1 (valid now) etc. the patch will be very huge, so I'll just send you the
new file. You can find it here:

http://www.shlomifish.org/perl-timeline-temp/PerlTimeline.html

Thanks, I'll look at it later tonight when I have time and the urge to consume an entire bottle of Ardbeg has subsided. :)

All that was said, I would still to contribute to the new Perl history effort on the TPF wiki. While I highly commend you for the effort you've put into the existing timeline, it's highly possible a collaboration between Andy Lester, Chris Dolan and I (and other people of the Perl community) can yeild something substantial and under a more usable licensing terms. We are going to respect the copyrights ownership of the existing timeline and not re-use
material from there directly, without your permission.

You know, that timeline has sat there for nearly a decade and I don't understand this bizarre BS over the license. You know, do you drive over the cliff before looking for a bridge?

When you get to the P6 history bits, I'll be sure to have the popcorn and beer ready as this will be one seriously entertaining flamewar. :) May the force be with you.

e.

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