Hi Ales,

Thank you for providing such a detailed description of your
circumstances, and I can see how the DB_OPERATION limit can be a
problem.  The core engineering team is aware that this limit makes
certain types of activities difficult (such as starting or
restructuring an account) and they are investigating potential
solutions.  Unfortunately I don't have any other information at this
time, but thank you again for the feedback.

Best,
- Eric

On Oct 7, 7:13 am, Ales Sturala <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Eric,
> txs for you time! Our application takes client's list of products and
> loads it to the AdWords. Besides that if the product does not exist
> anymore or something is changed (like a price) it changes the data in
> AdWords. Therefore operations Add, Set and Remove are the only
> important for us. Now imagine two real scenarious where we're having
> troubles now:
>
> 1) new client comes and wants to load all ads and keywords for the
> first time into adwords (I'm talking about 200.000 keywords for
> example) => the API cannot handle so many requests now because of the
> DB_Operation limit
> 2) we change how the ads should look like, therefore all old ads are
> deleted and all new have to be loaded => again we're getting into
> DB_OPERATION troubles
>
> In the first case the limitation causes that only part of the data can
> be loaded to AdWords and we have to wait till next day to load other
> part.
> In the second case it's even worst, imagine the account is live and we
> decide to change the ad structure. Now all ads will be deleted, part
> of new ads would be loaded and then we have to wait another day to
> load rest of the ads (or even worse if the loading would require
> several days). We're managing several accounts. Most of them contain
> large amount of ads and keywords.
>
> One more questions to ask, do you take in account a size of the
> account (e.g. amount of money spent by an account) or every account
> has the same limitation, so small acount with few keywords has same
> number of allowed database operations as an account having 200.000
> keywords? Because so far we're running the API 2009 only in sandbox
> and there we use a special account that doesn't have any live
> campaigns at all and is used only for testing purposes.
>
> Regards,
>   Ales
>
> On Oct 6, 11:11 pm, AdWords API Advisor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > The DB_OPERATION quota is only affected by mutate operations (ADD,
> > SET, REMOVE), and so you should not run into this issue during read
> > requests.  Can you give me more technical detail about your
> > application and when you are encountering this error?
>
> > Best,
> > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > On Oct 6, 5:14 am, Ales Sturala <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
> > > I'm wondering about the quota limitation used on sandbox. Is there any
> > > information on the Internet about it? Is it possible to higher this
> > > quota somehow? It's VERY VERY low now - it's not even enough to load
> > > ads and keywords for particular client into adwords, getting the
> > > database operation limit error!
>
> > > Is there anything we can do about it?
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