Hi,

As you mentioned, we no longer support the setup you described, although 
you raised a valid point on why this could be useful.  Since your test MCCs 
pre-date the current test MCC framework you've been grandfathered in, so to 
speak.

Cheers,
Josh, AdWords API Team

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:47:56 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Aube wrote:
>
> Yes, that's actually exactly what I'm doing right now because I was able 
> to make 5 test accounts before test MCCs were available. They're sitting 
> under a production MCC that acts as a test MCC would, and that production 
> MCC sits under our main MCC. 
>
> When I give a user access, I specify which MCC they can access, usually 
> another MCC sitting under the main MCC. I can give a developer access to 
> the main MCC, however, and then they can access all of the test accounts as 
> well, which is very handy.
>
> If I had to use a real test MCC instead, then I'd have to make a way for a 
> developer to be able to access more than once MCC, parse two separate 
> account trees, keep two sets of credentials and remember which one to use 
> for which account, etc. With our current setup, I can treat test accounts 
> exactly as if they are production accounts, which means I can have more 
> confidence that code that works for them will work for our production 
> accounts too.
>
> Also, since I have access to the main MCC, I can switch back and forth 
> between test accounts and production accounts in the AdWords interface 
> using a single Google account, which is extremely convenient.
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:25:46 PM UTC-5, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
> Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just curious - if it was possible then what would be the benefit of 
>> placing a test MCC in a production MCC's hierarchy?  Is the idea that once 
>> the production MCC's dev token is approved, you'll still want to use the 
>> test MCC's accounts for development and testing but use the production 
>> MCC's refresh token?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:07:20 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Aube wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't think it was possible to make a test MCC under a production 
>>> MCC, so I'd be very interested in hearing how it was done if you succeed.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 18, 2013 12:08:02 PM UTC-5, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>>> API Team) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The account you are referring to as your "Test MCC" (595-990-1085) is a 
>>>> child of your other MCC but it is *not* a test account.  As you 
>>>> pointed out, if this was a test account you would see This is a test 
>>>> account! in AdWords in the upper right corner.  Perhaps you created 
>>>> the account by clicking *Create account* when logged in as the parent 
>>>> MCC?
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend following the test account 
>>>> link<https://adwords.google.com/um/StartNewMccAccount?testAccount=true>again,
>>>>  and then confirming that you see This 
>>>> is a test account! when you log in under the new account.  If that 
>>>> still does not work, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:00:12 PM UTC-5, AdWords API User 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a Test MCC ( 595-990-1085) under my production MCC 
>>>>> (606-800-0363) 
>>>>> following this link, 
>>>>> https://adwords.google.com/um/StartNewMccAccount?testAccount=true, on 
>>>>> the page on how to set up test accounts, 
>>>>> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/test-accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created "Test-Account-1" underneath the Test MCC, e.g. account 
>>>>> 127-480-3381, 
>>>>> but I cannot see the red banner of a test account. How do I know this is 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> test account?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I use the Adwords API for the Test-Account-1 
>>>>>  
>>>>> api.adwords.clientCustomerId=127-480-3381
>>>>> using the api.adwords.developerToken={pending token from top-level 
>>>>> production MCC} 
>>>>> I get this error:
>>>>>
>>>>> QuotaCheckError.INCOMPLETE_SIGNUP
>>>>>
>>>>> What is incomplete signup under which account?
>>>>>
>>>>> For the api.adwords.clientId I used a value created in the Cloud 
>>>>> Console logged in with the email of the Test MCC. Is that maybe the error?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can somebody help please,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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