Good Morning Josh, Thanks for answering all my questions. I will work on getting our developer token upgraded to standard. that might alleviate some of our problems.
I will also try your recommended method to get the accounts/campaigns list. Thanks, Sudi On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:07:27 PM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) wrote: > > Hi Sudi, > > I've added more responses in blue below. > > Thanks, > Josh, AdWords API Team > > On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:32:21 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: >> >> Hi Josh, >> >> Thanks for the reply. >> >> Couple of questions - >> 1. Just to clarify - Is the access level upgrade tied to the Developer >> token or is it tied to each MCC Account that I try to access with that Dev >> Token? >> > It's tied to the developer token. > > 2. Our Developer token is used by multiple applications that run various >> API calls. Is there a way to get a breakdown of API request made versus >> quota used per request so we can understand which request triggered the >> RateExceedError? This will allow us to narrow down the rogue application. >> > Each *mutate* response includes an *operations* header that you could use > to track the operations count on your side. For *get* requests, you would > need to implement operations counting on your side (see the Rate Sheet > <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet> for > information on how operations are counted for these requests). > > >> >> We currently use ManagedCustomerService to get a list of accounts under >> an MCC and thereafter use CampaignService to get the list of Campaigns >> under each of the accounts under the MCC. Once the user selects the >> necessary campaign(s), we proceed to run various reports (Keyword Perf, Ad >> Perf etc) as the application demands >> >> Our issue right now is against an MCC account that has more than 200 >> sub-accounts and the call to CampaignService fails with the RateExceedError >> when we try to pull the list of campaigns across all the 200+ accounts. >> >> Is this not the most efficient way of doing this? >> >> I'm not sure how pulling zero-impression reports in this case will >> alleviate our problem. Could you clarify? >> > A more effective approach would be to use reporting to get the structure > of your MCC and campaigns. As the Rate Sheet > <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet> states: > > *AdHoc report downloads >> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/reporting> or any >> requests by test accounts >> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/test-accounts> do not count >> towards the daily operations limit. The following table gives some examples >> of the accounting:* > > > If you want to get *all* accounts and campaigns in your reports you > should explicitly request zero impression rows using the method described > in the link I sent previously (add < > includeZeroImpressions>true</includeZeroImpressions> to your report > definition XML). > > For example, you could achieve your use case using the following > reporting-based approach: > 1. To get a list of accounts under an MCC, use the > ACCOUNT_PERFORMANCE_REPORT > <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/reports#account> > and read the *ExternalCustomerId* field values. Note that if your MCC has > child MCCs (not just child AdWords accounts) you will have to run the > report for those MCCs as well. > 2. Use the CAMPAIGN_PERFORMANCE_REPORT to get the list of campaigns for > each account. > 3. Run the various reports as you do today on a per-account basis. > > > >> Thanks, >> Sudi >> >> On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:19:15 AM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API >> Team) wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've added my responses below in blue. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Josh, AdWords API Team >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:37:27 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: >>>> >>>> I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated >>>> with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. >>>> >>> Please see the section of our *Rate Limits Guide* that covers Decomposing >>> RateExceededError >>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits#decomposing_rateexceedederror> >>> . >>> >>>> >>>> My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports >>>> from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple >>>> MCC >>>> accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get >>>> a RateExceededError - "RateExceededError <rateName=BillingPerDay, >>>> rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400" >>>> >>>> 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is >>>> associated with my developer token? >>>> >>> Per the *Rate Limits Guide*, the *rateScope* indicates if the rate is >>> at the developer (token) level or the AdWords account level. >>> >>> 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? >>>> >>> The default level for developer tokens is *Basic access*, which allows >>> up to 10,000 operations per day. You can request an upgrade to the >>> *Standard >>> access *level by completing the standard access application >>> <https://www.google.com/adwords/api/standardaccess/>. >>> >>> >>>> 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there >>>> any way around this as a stop gap? >>>> >>> Are you sure you are getting this from *reporting* requests? The most >>> common source of *RateExceededErrors* with the *BillingPerDay* is >>> TargetingIdeaService >>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201402/TargetingIdeaService>. >>> >>> If you are getting this from reporting requests could you let me know which >>> reports you are running? >>> >>> You cannot really work around rate limits, but the Rate Limits Guide >>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits> >>> contains >>> some tips on best practices. Also, if you are using services to simply get >>> structural information about your accounts, I'd recommend using Zero >>> Impression Reports >>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/zero-impression-reports> >>> /Structure Reports >>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/structure-reports> >>> instead >>> of the SOAP services. >>> >>> -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AdWords API Forum" group. 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