We use the *CampaignCriterionService *and *CampaignService *as well as
the *MutateJobService.
*all under v201506.
No reporting at all.

2015-07-23 21:09 GMT+03:00 Justin Coon <jus...@campaignium.com>:

> We mostly use reporting, but we do use other read-only services for example
>
> Google.Api.Ads.AdWords.v201502.CampaignService.get
>
>
> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Cloonan (AdWords
> API Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> One other followup question. For users this is affecting, is it
>> specifically only affecting reporting, or are you also seeing this behavior
>> with other services?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>
>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:15:54 PM UTC-4, Michael Cloonan (AdWords
>> API Team) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Everyone who is experiencing this issues, please reply to me privately
>>> with your developer token and CID so that we can narrow down and take a
>>> closer look at specifically known affected accounts. The engineering team
>>> is actively looking into this issue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:41:57 AM UTC-4, Michael Cloonan (AdWords
>>> API Team) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone for the reports. I've filed a bug with our engineering
>>>> team to look into this issue, and I will keep this thread updated as I hear
>>>> back.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:38:28 AM UTC-4, Justin Coon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me also add that our analytics tool has been working without this
>>>>> issue for at least 6 months as well. No changes on our end, but this just
>>>>> started happening within the last few days. We download reports, and make 
>>>>> a
>>>>> few read-only calls related to account structure, campaigns, and ads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:34:23 AM UTC-5, uvsuperDev wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Michael,
>>>>>> We are well aware to the rate limits and we have implemented all your
>>>>>> best practices (using mutateJobService, waits etc.). As I have written on
>>>>>> my original post we keep getting this after the 24 hours penalty after
>>>>>> making another 15-20 calls within a hour (that isn't too much, right?).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am really suspecting that something has gone wrong on your end
>>>>>> since our tool was working perfectly for months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other solutions? Is there a way to find our the exact reason we
>>>>>> get this error?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 4:21:42 PM UTC+3, Michael Cloonan
>>>>>> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Kristopher,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on the number of reports, and your description, I am starting
>>>>>>> to suspect like you that something may be wrong on our end. Can you 
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> reply to me privately and include an example SOAP request/response where
>>>>>>> you're getting the rate limiting error at a time where you normally
>>>>>>> wouldn't have? I will pass it along to the engineers so that they can 
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>> at a specific example to see what might be going wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 2:05:37 PM UTC-4, Kristopher Windsor
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am also seeing this error. Our application has been running for
>>>>>>>> months without major changes, and we just noticed many rate exceeded 
>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>> starting yesterday. We have a token bucket implementation, exponential
>>>>>>>> back-off strategy, everything that was recommended. I think something 
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> changed on Google's end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are also seeing many unexpected internal API errors (more than
>>>>>>>> usual) -- these errors are persistent enough that our scripts give up
>>>>>>>> retrying. (This is not usual.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  [RateExceededError <rateName=Requests, rateKey=shasta, rateScope=
>>>>>>>> ACCOUNT, retryAfterSeconds=30>]"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 9:57:22 AM UTC-7, Justin Coon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to get a grace extension for a day or so to remove
>>>>>>>>> the 24hr ban while I put more logic to handle the more transient rate 
>>>>>>>>> limit
>>>>>>>>> errors and deploy that code? I've already changed through our config 
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> to download reports on a less often interval so that should help 
>>>>>>>>> alot, but
>>>>>>>>> I need more logic to better handle the 'warning' 30 second timeouts
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2015 11:44 AM, "Justin Coon" <jus...@campaignium.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does the clock reset the 24 hrs every time a subsequent request
>>>>>>>>>> is made (the request obviously still fails)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:30:10 AM UTC-5, Michael Cloonan
>>>>>>>>>> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Justin,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you adhere to the timeouts specified in the rate limit
>>>>>>>>>>> errors, you will never be locked out for an entire day. Rate limits 
>>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>> to all accounts, and they're enforced to make sure that one user 
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> prevent the ability of another to use the API. You must honor the 
>>>>>>>>>>> returned
>>>>>>>>>>> wait times specified by rate limits in order to make sure that your
>>>>>>>>>>> software does not get this last-resort 24 hour penalty. This penalty
>>>>>>>>>>> generally isn't issued the very first time you try to make a 
>>>>>>>>>>> request that
>>>>>>>>>>> is rejected due to rate limit issues; you need to keep ignoring the 
>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>> and trying again before the specified time in order to get locked 
>>>>>>>>>>> out for
>>>>>>>>>>> so long.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once you implement wait and retry logic, you should never get
>>>>>>>>>>> locked out for more than a few minutes, or probably even less than 
>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:28:36 AM UTC-4, Justin Coon
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been dealing with the exact same thing. But this seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> really silly that we stop making requests for 24hrs. Basically that
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires to stop our software completely...which effects our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> customers. So
>>>>>>>>>>>> every time we make a subsequent request (after the initial error) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the clock
>>>>>>>>>>>> starts over??! We will never get back to ground zero
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 9:57:22 AM UTC-7, Justin Coon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to get a grace extension for a day or so to remove
>>>>>>>>> the 24hr ban while I put more logic to handle the more transient rate 
>>>>>>>>> limit
>>>>>>>>> errors and deploy that code? I've already changed through our config 
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> to download reports on a less often interval so that should help 
>>>>>>>>> alot, but
>>>>>>>>> I need more logic to better handle the 'warning' 30 second timeouts
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2015 11:44 AM, "Justin Coon" <jus...@campaignium.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does the clock reset the 24 hrs every time a subsequent request
>>>>>>>>>> is made (the request obviously still fails)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:30:10 AM UTC-5, Michael Cloonan
>>>>>>>>>> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Justin,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you adhere to the timeouts specified in the rate limit
>>>>>>>>>>> errors, you will never be locked out for an entire day. Rate limits 
>>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>> to all accounts, and they're enforced to make sure that one user 
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> prevent the ability of another to use the API. You must honor the 
>>>>>>>>>>> returned
>>>>>>>>>>> wait times specified by rate limits in order to make sure that your
>>>>>>>>>>> software does not get this last-resort 24 hour penalty. This penalty
>>>>>>>>>>> generally isn't issued the very first time you try to make a 
>>>>>>>>>>> request that
>>>>>>>>>>> is rejected due to rate limit issues; you need to keep ignoring the 
>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>> and trying again before the specified time in order to get locked 
>>>>>>>>>>> out for
>>>>>>>>>>> so long.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once you implement wait and retry logic, you should never get
>>>>>>>>>>> locked out for more than a few minutes, or probably even less than 
>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:28:36 AM UTC-4, Justin Coon
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been dealing with the exact same thing. But this seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> really silly that we stop making requests for 24hrs. Basically that
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires to stop our software completely...which effects our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> customers. So
>>>>>>>>>>>> every time we make a subsequent request (after the initial error) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the clock
>>>>>>>>>>>> starts over??! We will never get back to ground zero
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 9:57:22 AM UTC-7, Justin Coon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to get a grace extension for a day or so to remove
>>>>>>>>> the 24hr ban while I put more logic to handle the more transient rate 
>>>>>>>>> limit
>>>>>>>>> errors and deploy that code? I've already changed through our config 
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> to download reports on a less often interval so that should help 
>>>>>>>>> alot, but
>>>>>>>>> I need more logic to better handle the 'warning' 30 second timeouts
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2015 11:44 AM, "Justin Coon" <jus...@campaignium.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does the clock reset the 24 hrs every time a subsequent request
>>>>>>>>>> is made (the request obviously still fails)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:30:10 AM UTC-5, Michael Cloonan
>>>>>>>>>> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Justin,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you adhere to the timeouts specified in the rate limit
>>>>>>>>>>> errors, you will never be locked out for an entire day. Rate limits 
>>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>> to all accounts, and they're enforced to make sure that one user 
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> prevent the ability of another to use the API. You must honor the 
>>>>>>>>>>> returned
>>>>>>>>>>> wait times specified by rate limits in order to make sure that your
>>>>>>>>>>> software does not get this last-resort 24 hour penalty. This penalty
>>>>>>>>>>> generally isn't issued the very first time you try to make a 
>>>>>>>>>>> request that
>>>>>>>>>>> is rejected due to rate limit issues; you need to keep ignoring the 
>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>> and trying again before the specified time in order to get locked 
>>>>>>>>>>> out for
>>>>>>>>>>> so long.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once you implement wait and retry logic, you should never get
>>>>>>>>>>> locked out for more than a few minutes, or probably even less than 
>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:28:36 AM UTC-4, Justin Coon
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been dealing with the exact same thing. But this seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> really silly that we stop making requests for 24hrs. Basically that
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires to stop our software completely...which effects our 
>>>>>>>>>>>> customers. So
>>>>>>>>>>>> every time we make a subsequent request (after the initial error) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the clock
>>>>>>>>>>>> starts over??! We will never get back to ground zero
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~
>>>>>>>>>> Also find us on our blog and Google+:
>>>>>>>>>> https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts
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