Hi Josh, 

That is correct, this one has never existed. Previously the mutate call to 
the AdGroupCriterionService was creating a Criterion for us as well if 
something did not exist. The behavior we are seeing now is that it doesn't 
do this. If that was the expected behavior all along then I am happy to 
rewrite our test. I am just trying to understand what is happening. 

Thanks. 
Hunter. 

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 7:45:20 PM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Hunter,
>
> I took a look at your account but can't find any indication that user list 
> ID 11461606624 ever existed, but it's entirely possible I'm just missing 
> something.
>
> Would you happen to have the request ID from the request that created the 
> *user 
> list*?
>
> Thanks,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 9:20:09 AM UTC-4, Hunter wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josh, 
>>
>> No we used a different UserList each time, and the Id using for that 
>> UserList was based on the current time the test was run i.e. UserList<unix 
>> timestamp>. The workflow for this test was as follows :
>>
>> 1. Create a campaign
>> 2. Create an adgroup
>> 3. Create a CriterionUserList object from the Perl client library
>> 4. Create a BiddableAdGroupCriterion object from the Perl client library 
>> pointing to the CriterionUserList from (3)
>> 5. Create an AdGroupCriterionOperation object from the Perl client 
>> library with an operand of the AdGroupCriterion from (4) and operator of 
>> 'ADD'
>> 6. Call the mutate method of the AdGroupCriterionService passing the 
>> operation from (5)
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Hunter.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:09:50 AM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>> API Team) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Hunter,
>>>
>>> I'm not aware of any recent changes in behavior. Could you provide more 
>>> details on your test set up? One possibility is that the *UserList* you 
>>> were using for your tests was deleted on or around 4/20. Do you use an 
>>> existing *UserList* in your tests, or recreate one each time the test 
>>> runs?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:06:20 AM UTC-4, Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Josh, 
>>>>
>>>> So this is definitely not a recent change? Our logs indicate this 
>>>> behavior started occurring on 2016-04-20, previously this test had been 
>>>> running for ~7 months without issue. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Hunter.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 4:44:30 PM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>>>> API Team) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hunter,
>>>>>
>>>>> When constructing your *CriterionUserList*, the userListId 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201603/AdGroupCriterionService.CriterionUserList#userlistid>
>>>>>  must 
>>>>> refer to an existing UserList 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201603/AdwordsUserListService.UserList#id>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> You can verify that the *userListId* specified is a valid ID by 
>>>>> checking the results from AdwordsUserListService.get 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201603/AdwordsUserListService#get>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4, Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We recently started seeing one of our Unit tests fail related to 
>>>>>> creating CriterionUserList 
>>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201601/AdGroupCriterionService.CriterionUserList>
>>>>>>  objects 
>>>>>> with the AdGroupCriterionService, we are currently using v201601 of the 
>>>>>> API 
>>>>>> and have not made any changes on our side. Have there been any changes 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> this service?  See below for relevant SOAP request and response. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *SOAP Request:*
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>>> <SOAP-ENV:Envelope
>>>>>>     xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";
>>>>>>     xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";>
>>>>>>   <SOAP-ENV:Header>
>>>>>>     <RequestHeader
>>>>>>         xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601";>
>>>>>>       <clientCustomerId
>>>>>>           xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601
>>>>>> ">REDACTED
>>>>>>       </clientCustomerId>
>>>>>>       <developerToken
>>>>>>           xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601
>>>>>> ">REDACTED
>>>>>>       </developerToken>
>>>>>>       <userAgent
>>>>>>           xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601
>>>>>> ">REDACTED
>>>>>>       </userAgent>
>>>>>>       <validateOnly
>>>>>>           xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601
>>>>>> ">false
>>>>>>       </validateOnly>
>>>>>>       <partialFailure
>>>>>>           xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601
>>>>>> ">false
>>>>>>       </partialFailure>
>>>>>>     </RequestHeader>
>>>>>>   </SOAP-ENV:Header>
>>>>>>   <SOAP-ENV:Body>
>>>>>>     <mutate
>>>>>>         xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601";>
>>>>>>       <operations>
>>>>>>         <operator>ADD
>>>>>>         </operator>
>>>>>>         <operand
>>>>>>             xsi:type="BiddableAdGroupCriterion">
>>>>>>           <adGroupId>29068739164
>>>>>>           </adGroupId>
>>>>>>           <criterion
>>>>>>               xsi:type="CriterionUserList">
>>>>>>             <userListId>11461606624
>>>>>>             </userListId>
>>>>>>             <userListName>AudienceForSync31461606624
>>>>>>             </userListName>
>>>>>>             <userListMembershipStatus>OPEN
>>>>>>             </userListMembershipStatus>
>>>>>>           </criterion>
>>>>>>           <bidModifier>0.1
>>>>>>           </bidModifier>
>>>>>>         </operand>
>>>>>>       </operations>
>>>>>>       <operations>
>>>>>>         <operator>ADD
>>>>>>         </operator>
>>>>>>         <operand
>>>>>>             xsi:type="BiddableAdGroupCriterion">
>>>>>>           <adGroupId>29068739164
>>>>>>           </adGroupId>
>>>>>>           <criterion
>>>>>>               xsi:type="CriterionUserList">
>>>>>>             <userListId>21461606624
>>>>>>             </userListId>
>>>>>>             <userListName>AudienceForSync41461606624
>>>>>>             </userListName>
>>>>>>             <userListMembershipStatus>OPEN
>>>>>>             </userListMembershipStatus>
>>>>>>           </criterion>
>>>>>>           <bidModifier>10
>>>>>>           </bidModifier>
>>>>>>         </operand>
>>>>>>       </operations>
>>>>>>     </mutate>
>>>>>>   </SOAP-ENV:Body>
>>>>>> </SOAP-ENV:Envelope>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *SOAP Response:*
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>>> <soap:Envelope
>>>>>>     xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";>
>>>>>>   <soap:Header>
>>>>>>     <ResponseHeader
>>>>>>         xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601";>
>>>>>>       <requestId>00053152cfa7db880ac11896a10d4cab
>>>>>>       </requestId>
>>>>>>       <serviceName>AdGroupCriterionService
>>>>>>       </serviceName>
>>>>>>       <methodName>mutate
>>>>>>       </methodName>
>>>>>>       <operations>2
>>>>>>       </operations>
>>>>>>       <responseTime>74
>>>>>>       </responseTime>
>>>>>>     </ResponseHeader>
>>>>>>   </soap:Header>
>>>>>>   <soap:Body>
>>>>>>     <soap:Fault>
>>>>>>       <faultcode>soap:Server
>>>>>>       </faultcode>
>>>>>>       <faultstring>[EntityNotFound.INVALID_ID @ 
>>>>>> operations[0].operand.criterion.userListId; trigger:11461606624, 
>>>>>> EntityNotFound.INVALID_ID @ operations[1].operand.criterion.userListId; 
>>>>>> trigger:21461606624]
>>>>>>       </faultstring>
>>>>>>       <detail>
>>>>>>         <ApiExceptionFault
>>>>>>             xmlns="https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201601
>>>>>> ">
>>>>>>           <message>[EntityNotFound.INVALID_ID @ 
>>>>>> operations[0].operand.criterion.userListId; trigger:11461606624, 
>>>>>> EntityNotFound.INVALID_ID @ operations[1].operand.criterion.userListId; 
>>>>>> trigger:21461606624]
>>>>>>           </message>
>>>>>>           <ApplicationException.Type>ApiException
>>>>>>           </ApplicationException.Type>
>>>>>>           <errors
>>>>>>               xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
>>>>>>               xsi:type="EntityNotFound">
>>>>>>             <fieldPath>operations[0].operand.criterion.userListId
>>>>>>             </fieldPath>
>>>>>>             <trigger>11461606624
>>>>>>             </trigger>
>>>>>>             <errorString>EntityNotFound.INVALID_ID
>>>>>>             </errorString>
>>>>>>             <ApiError.Type>EntityNotFound
>>>>>>             </ApiError.Type>
>>>>>>             <reason>INVALID_ID
>>>>>>             </reason>
>>>>>>           </errors>
>>>>>>           <errors
>>>>>>               xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
>>>>>>               xsi:type="EntityNotFound">
>>>>>>             <fieldPath>operations[1].operand.criterion.userListId
>>>>>>             </fieldPath>
>>>>>>             <trigger>21461606624
>>>>>>             </trigger>
>>>>>>             <errorString>EntityNotFound.INVALID_ID
>>>>>>             </errorString>
>>>>>>             <ApiError.Type>EntityNotFound
>>>>>>             </ApiError.Type>
>>>>>>             <reason>INVALID_ID
>>>>>>             </reason>
>>>>>>           </errors>
>>>>>>         </ApiExceptionFault>
>>>>>>       </detail>
>>>>>>     </soap:Fault>
>>>>>>   </soap:Body>
>>>>>> </soap:Envelope>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The error appears to be related to the CriterionUserList not 
>>>>>> *already* existing. Since this is an ADD operation I am confused as to 
>>>>>> why 
>>>>>> that fails, and why it only started failing recently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Hunter. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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