Saul Ostrow
Visual Arts and Technologies
The Cleveland Institute of Art
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> From: armando baeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:41:12 -0700
> To: saul ostrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: armando baeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Fuzzy writing, fuzzy reading. Correction
>
> "Several years ago i stated that the essence is unreachable, so, the
> only
> thing that's left for us, is our expression of it" as fuzzy as it may
> be.
> mando
>
> I send this to you because I'm out of the loop for some reason.
>
> On Mar 29, 2008, at 6:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Any horse who seeks eternal life should join our forum. On this
>> forum there
>> are no dead horses. So, contrary to William's frequent criticism,
>> I can't be
>> kicking one,
>>
>> No matter how often I stress that fuzziness of notion is a matter
>> of degree,
>> that, though a notion is never perfectly clear, it very frequently
>> reaches a
>> degree of clarity that we may call "serviceable" -- as in the
>> notion behind,
>> "Please pass the carrots" -- we have Saul commenting, "Ipso facto
>> everything
>> is fuzzy and nothing is because the other is an impossibility."
>>
>> He writes this immediately after reading a post in which I say
>> these things:
>>
>> "very often our effort turns to finding a word or phrase to
>> "express" the
>> blurry notion before we've cleared up the focus to a serviceable
>> degree"
>>
>> "How could he possibly figure I was looking for "clear and
>> distinct" ideas
>> when I specifically convey I am only looking for a "serviceable
>> degree" of
>> clarity? ('Serviceable' is another word I've elaborated on to an
>> extent William has
>> found tedious in the extreme. I hope William has noticed that,
>> despite how
>> often I stress the serviceability of a line like, "Please pass
>> the carrots,"
>> listers still maintain that since I feel communication can never be
>> perfect I
>> must feel no communication at all is possible.)"
>>
>> "I explicitly urge speakers to sharpen their "notion into as clear
>> a degree
>> as you can manage". It didn't occur to Brian to reflect on why
>> I don't say,
>> "sharpen them until they are clear and distinct."
>>
>> " But it's a matter of the degree of sinfulness. I indicate the
>> fuzzy edges
>> of a phrase like, "the river", but I go on to say, " Still, 'the
>> river' can be
>> serviceable, and in fact it usually is."
>>
>> Saul reads all this, and yet he believes what I've said implies that
>> "everything is fuzzy and nothing is because the other is an
>> impossibility." No matter
>> how many times or ways I try to convey it, Saul cannot grasp the
>> notion of
>> degrees of fuzziness.
>>
>> As I recall I said last summer that Saul just doesn't have the head
>> for
>> philosophy, and certainly not for philosophy of art. I continue to
>> believe that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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