Frances to Derek and others... 

The pragmatist stance on group theory as applied to social activities, like
religion and art and philosophy and science, goes beyond the mere
conventional agreement of communal members. The determination of what might
be found good furthermore includes the beautiful or nice and correct and
true. The finding of goodness is what any group of familiar or learned
experts will tentatively concur to by a consensus of their opinion. The
group of course must be relevant and pertinent to the issues at hand. The
good therefore is what the group would eventually arrive at by a
collaborative effort, if sufficient research were carried out by curiosity
and inquiry and discovery. There are however many barriers to research, so
that the route of least resistance is often temporarily taken. The principle
at work here for pragmatists states that if a thing ever could be found
good, then it probably will be in the long run, regardless of whether it
ever actually will be found good. It is therefore sufficient to satisfy the
tenets of pragmatism if a thinker merely believes in this optimistic
likelihood. The forecasted outcome of goodness must hence remain indefinite.
The members of groups who make determinations must clearly be normal by all
evolutionary standards, which is to say rational in thought and reasonable
in conduct. In any event, that which is deemed good will grow by the process
of evolution, to adapt and change and advance and expand and progress. Even
group theory is justly prone to revisionist amendments. It seems to me that
this process in practice might be the best available at the present, because
it is naturally real and objectively logical. The alternative process that
favors the determination of individual persons as better than that of
communal peoples relies far too much on subjectivity and psychologism. 

 

Derek partly wrote in effect... 

Most local Germans thought the Nazis were right. This is called the tyranny
of the majority. The group formula would not work at all in art. This would
mean amending the formula. It's not just a reliance on the group, it has to
be reliance on the most recent group, and another group might come along
with a different view. 

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