On May 1, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Derek Allan wrote:

Well you have just said that art is 'fiction' and you endorsed William's
view that it is meaningless. What then is real (ie not fiction) and
meaningful? Answer must be: 'real life'.  No?

I'm afraid your substituting of "real" and "not fiction" is wrong. The opposite of "fiction" is not "real," but "non-fiction," and those two terms are not synonymous.

I've explained my use of "fiction" on this list before. I mean that the representation in a WoA does NOT have to conform in all particulars to the model, as a representation would have to in other, non-artworks.

Consider a map. A "real" map, i.e., a "nonfiction" diagram, is expected to have a degree of accurate conformity to real objects in real space. Road lines on a map should (generally, within the range of the scale of drawing) correctly portray the actual location of the road, and likewise with building, rivers, mountains, etc. That is the first criterion of a map: fidelity and accuray. After that, qualities of color, linear marks, symbols, etc., are embellishments that add to the pleasure of looking at the map. Now, consider the map of Treasure Island: It can show almost anything at all, but granted it must show the locales and details mentioned in the story. So, it's contingent, too, on the story, which itself is a free creation. You can't sail to Treasure Island by following the map on the endleaves of the book (the edition I remember reading as a boy), so in that sense, it's not a true map.

There are many examples of this boundary of fiction between art and nonart, no matter how narrow Jasper Johns wanted to make it.

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