----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [5] [5] Re: Beauty? I think not!

Mike, can you give some examples?  (which, unlike the ones given in your
previous post, involve human agency)
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I take an aesthetic experience to be any experience where there is a significant focusing on the self-conscious of experience. An aesthetic experience is experience qua experience. Whenever we are asked to answer the question, "What is it like to have this experience?" we are invited into an aesthetic experience. Any experience for its own sake or "as an end in itself" is an aesthetic experience.

Many of the aesthetic theories from Kant to Beardsley refer to some kind of "detachment" or "disinterestedness" in an aesthetic experience. What they are referring to, IMO, is the disentanglement art has from the everyday purposes of living. Experiencing art serves no other purpose than the experience itself.

So, what I look to in a communicative act is whether the communication is instrumental (non-art) or is asking me what it is like to experience the communication.

If I describe my pain to my doctor, I am not interested in how she experiences the information, I just want her to cure me. My communication has an end beyond the experience itself. (not art)

If I need to give directions to someone and draw a map of the area, the diagram is instrumental. (not art)

If I draw a sketch of the area, not for any useful reason, but because I believe the experience of viewing the sketch is valuable in and of itself, then I have made art.

The one thing all art has in common is that someone, somewhere felt that the experience of the object was valuable in and of itself. People may not find it valuable, in which case the object is not good art, but I focus on the intention, not the results.

Obviously there will be mixed cases such as square plate gourmet dishes. Artwork or Nourishment. But, even here I submit that the controversy is less troublesome than attempting to come up with a list of qualities of an experience that allow an object to be counted as art.

Mike Mallory

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